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[NL2-NL10] NL 10: Turn draws

    • Jumbles
      Jumbles
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.10.2007 Posts: 190
      Interested to hear your thoughts on this one. Felt a bit odd playing it.

      Villains a nitty player.

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed)

      MP2 ($5.34)
      MP3 ($11.58)
      Hero ($10.00)
      Button ($20.90)
      SB ($12.12)
      BB ($1.84)
      UTG ($2.17)
      UTG+1 ($4.99)
      MP1 ($8.89)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[:club:] , 5[:club:] .
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks.

      Flop: ($0.45) 8[:club:] , Q[:club:] , 3[:diamond:] (4 players)
      BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, Button raises to $0.4, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30.

      Turn: ($1.65) 6[:heart:] (3 players)
      UTG+1 bets $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, Button raises to $1, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.90.

      River: ($3.75) 2[:spade:] (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.9, Button calls $2.90.

      Final Pot: $9.55
  • 5 replies
    • vladnz
      vladnz
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2007 Posts: 1,355
      reraise turn
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Why so passive dude? I'd raise PF... but I'm crazy :D and the table was probably not tight enough for a proffitable raise PF, so just calling is fine.

      But on the flop you're too passive IMO. You don't have a very good flush draw, but a raise here may "force" better FD or even better hands to fold.

      I'd continue the aggression on the turn as it gives me more outs, and valuebet the river.
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      You certainly could reraise preflop here, if you want to play sc from late position against one limper, but, an occasional call on a passive table is ok too.

      Flop seems ok to me. A weak draw, so limping and calling the small raise is all ok.

      Turn, though, now the draw is FD + Double gutshot. I'd maybe call the first limp, but semibluff reraise hard after the raise, and go broke with this draw if I didn't take it down straight away. Villain may or may not have a better flush draw, but your straight outs definitely compensate here. It seems he is trying to defend against the flush, and taking the pot with a draw is certainly a win.

      EDIT: Not even double gutshot, just OESD. :)
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      Preflop: raising is an option.
      Postflop: I like the line: you get odds to call. A reraise is also an option, but it only makes sense if you have fold equity. Villain's line looks to me like he won't fold - but if you think there is a good chance he will fold, reraising is fine.
    • Jumbles
      Jumbles
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.10.2007 Posts: 190
      I appreciate the comments. Being aggressive with big draws is definitely something I have to work at.

      At the time, UTG's nonsense did seem to make Villain look strong. Certainly, his language was strong in the chatbox afterwards :D