[NL20-NL50] NL25 - AA vs loose player

    • ancha666
      ancha666
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      Joined: 30.01.2008 Posts: 169
      Poker Room skin
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
      10 players
      Converter

      Stack sizes:
      UTG: $8.40
      UTG+1: $9.10
      UTG+2: $8.15
      MP1: $19.55
      MP2: $22.90
      MP3: $16.30
      CO: $4.35
      Button: $30.20
      Hero: $55.60
      BB: $10.95

      Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with A A
      3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.35, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

      Flop: 8 5 8 ($3.2, 2 players)
      Hero bets $2.5, MP1 calls.

      Turn: K ($8.2, 2 players)
      [color=#cc0000]Hero ?

      How much I hate this kind of a game when I never know where I stand :( :(
      Firstly I put villain on 8 but then said to myself, god damnit from all the hands in deck he's holding this 8 or what?! No way!!! - I'm going for stacks here!
      However - check or bet?
  • 9 replies
    • matovicmilos
      matovicmilos
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      Joined: 06.09.2007 Posts: 115
      Bet! I think he would call you with overcards on that flop most of the time, and if he raises i would still go all in because he might have hit a king.
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Raise more PF (~$1.75).

      And I think you could bet less on the flop, I usually c-bet 2/3 of pot when I miss the flop, since this board is dry I'd bet the same amount.

      On the turn I like checking. If he has a king you're going to extract more from him anyway. If he's a floater, then check and let him bluff. If he has a smaller PP, he's probably not calling a turnbet, so check and hope he fires. If he has an 8... oh well... bad luck I guess.

      So, I like check/calling the turn.
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      i doubt villains float much on this limit...

      pre i raise to 1.5$@4BB + 1/limper.

      flop i bet 2/3 pot.

      turn i bet out, and play for stacks.

      if he just calls, then on the river i'm committed, and i put him all-in.
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Originally posted by chenny8888
      i doubt villains float much on this limit...

      turn i bet out, and play for stacks.
      With what kind of hands do you think villain would call on the flop?

      An eight, a PP, two overcards, nothing (floater)... hmm... straight draw? Very unlikely I think.

      Against an eight, hero's screwed, so I wanna keep the pot small.

      Against a PP, hero won't be able to extract much more, I think the best thing to do is check the turn to deceive villain and extract a little more on the river.

      And against two overcards, you can only extract anything if he's holding a King. If not, then I'd like to give him a chance to catch up and extract a little more on the river.

      To sum it up, the board is so dry here that I'd rather use my position to keep the pot small, because villain will probably only play for stacks with a better hand.

      Well, that's my opinion.
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      use your position? you're OOP! :(

      c/c does make some sense though, now that i think of it..
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      oops, I was probably thinking about another hand when I said I was IP. :D

      But I'd still go for check/call.
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      you really are a bunny :P

      yeah c/c is best
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      check/call and check/raise the river
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      Bet Turn, Bet River - Hero wins most of the time...