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[NL20-NL50] Nl50 folding kings pre (i know, just hear me out)

    • PickoCro
      PickoCro
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 83
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $29.50
      CO:
      $52.44
      BU (Hero):
      $75.14
      SB:
      $65.44
      BB:
      $20.00
      MP1:
      $68.97
      MP2:
      $76.10


      Preflop: Hero is BU with K, K.
      MP1 raises to $1.00, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.45, SB raises to $5.90, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16.61, SB raises to $27.57, Hero folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $17.86.

      It took a lot of courage posting this hand here, but here it goes...
      This guy was playing really tight (9/8 over 350 hands)... He folded to every 3 bet except 1, and he 3bet himself only once before this hand... Also he was extremely passive postflop, whenever he raised pre he d never cbet unless he hit something, was folding every hand almost every time (i marked him as super tight)...

      And ofc this hand came up, so when he 4bet i was like ok so it s aa, ak, kk or qq and was happy to get it in, but then he makes this really small 6bet, which made me think he can t have anything except aa here (maybe the other 2 kings)... If he just pushed after my 5bet i d snap call but considering that bizarrely small raise and the fact that he was playing really tight and careful i thought to myself he never plays ak qq like this (again, maybe kk but unlikely) and if there was ever a spot to fold kings this has to be it...

      I know you should never ever ever ever fold kings pre and since i started playing poker i have never even considered folding kings pre but i just felt like he has to have aces here...

      So my question is: a) would you fold here?
      b) has anyone ever had a similar situation with a similar opponent, shoved on him and have him show a worse hand (or make him fold)?
  • 1 reply
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      Small 4-bet seems very strong and I would personally not go there 5-bet to then only fold to small 6-bet. You´re putting just too much money in pf with second nuts. Imo it is a lot better to call his small 4-bet and play postflop ip.
      You get odds to hit your set and if he is 4-bet bluffing or valuebetting with worse hands you can also make decisions postflop.

      So my question is: a) would you fold here?
      - after 5-betting no
      b) has anyone ever had a similar situation with a similar opponent, shoved on him and have him show a worse hand (or make him fold)?
      I´ve seen highstakes video where player put in half his stack by 6-betting and then insta folding to shove. But he wasn´t really playing 9/8 style.