[NL2-NL10] NL10 JJ overpair vs clickback

    • Letsdothisish
      Letsdothisish
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      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 995
      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($2.45)
      MP ($8.15)
      Hero (Button) ($9.85)
      SB ($1.90)
      BB ($18.85)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
      1 fold, MP bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.85) 8, 4, 7 (2 players)
      MP bets $0.63, Hero raises $1.50, MP raises $2.94, Hero raises $8 (All-In), MP calls $4.23 (All-In)

      Turn: ($16.45) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: ($16.45) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Total pot: $16.45


      Hi,

      Villain plays 21/17 1.7 AF and folds 80% vs 3bets.

      Not wanting to isolate myself against better I just call in the BU
      He only cbets 36% (14). But there are enough hands that I beat here like 99-TT-maybe AK or FD's where he will cbet with.

      Question is did I play this good postflop? I made a small raise so he could shove over me with a wider range than his calling range.

      His clickback makes me smell this is probably a valuehand, so is there an option to fold here or are we a lot of the times ahead vs his range? (I personally think not and would be more eager to call his shove instead of a clickback) Thank you.
  • 4 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would personally 3-bet pf, to get more money in with better hand pf, but call is likely also fine. Since board is low and drawy I think raising flop and playing for stacks should be fine. He can likely click it back with worse hand, so I´d also go with my hand.
    • Letsdothisish
      Letsdothisish
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      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 995
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I would personally 3-bet pf, to get more money in with better hand pf, but call is likely also fine. Since board is low and drawy I think raising flop and playing for stacks should be fine. He can likely click it back with worse hand, so I´d also go with my hand.
      What if he 4bets me preflop, I shove or am I most likely against QQ+/AK vs a 80% fold to 3bet player?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Depends on your image. Some players would also go there TT+, AK that JJ is doing fine, also they might always 4-bet/fold smt like AT/AJ if they don´t want to call and play postflop, so 3-betting with JJ can´t really be the bad play.
      If he opens 17% and fold 80% then it leaves indeed 3,4%, against JJ is behind:

      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      JJ 44.20% 198,463,956 11,731,668
      4% 55.80% 252,126,456 11,731,668

      but that shouldn´t mean you should 3-bet hand to put more pressure his wide opening range and next time happily get all-in with AK/QQ+
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Letsdothisish,

      Well, if you are wanting to play for the stacks postflop then just 3bet it preflop and get it in and get value from AQ/AK type of hands as well. Your play is just pure spew. I mean what are you hoping to continue on the flop? There ain't gonna be many hands which are easily going broke unless he is really loose player. Draws most likely even folding, plus his CBetting range is towards only made hands according your stats. So at the best I'd just Call the flop and reevaluate it on the turn.

      By the way moved your thread to NL10 section. :)

      Best Regards.