[NL2-NL10] Nl100: Tt

    • 098799
      098799
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      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)       
      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $49.48

      0.50/1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T:spade: , T:heart:
      2 folds, MP2 raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $18.50 (All-In), 4 folds, MP2 calls $15.00.

      Flop: ($38.50) 8:spade: , J:heart: , 5:diamond:
      Turn: ($38.50) 2:diamond:
      River: ($38.50) 6:spade:


      Final Pot: $38.50


      Against 17pfr I have something like 60% equity but I don't know if I can calculate it like that. Do I?

      Position_Stack:
      hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;
      MP2$49.48:75/32/17/1.9/35/100/13/29;
  • 9 replies
    • Berliner1982
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      Ok.
    • 098799
      098799
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      Thank you, Berliner ;) .
    • xylere
      xylere
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      how did you calculate it?)

      17PFR means that he is raising top 17. From Mp2 it will be very close to it. I think its a close coinflip (you can check it yourself).

      anyway, push is fine
    • 098799
      098799
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      As far as I remember, just insert the numbers to equilator.

      It says that top 17% are A5s+, A8o+, 55+, K9s+, KTo+, QJs. I think he'll raise more from late position and less from early, but from middle it's just accurate.

      Still, it's rather dubious that he'll call with every of them here ;) .
    • xylere
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      its actually 66+,A6s+,K9s+,Q9s+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+ 57% equity. He is not calling 100%, of course)

      But you can easily plot the graph, like one Nunki did. It will take you some time :)
      But I think the line won`t go negative)
    • 098799
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      Wonder why equilator gave me different ranges?

      By the way: I think we may try to make some 3d graph that can show what hand is still playable in which ranges of pfr with every possible fold equity. Than we can make all preflop decisions according to these graphs...
    • xylere
      xylere
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      because I used pokerstove) but equilator is smarter, so yeah, you were correct with 60% equity.

      By the way: I think we may try to make some 3d graph that can show what hand is still playable in which ranges of pfr with every possible fold equity. Than we can make all preflop decisions according to these graphs...


      it won't help you unless you know opponent's 3bet calling range, which is possible to know with the current generation of huds (personally, I am waiting for 3rd PT).
    • 098799
      098799
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      So are we on the way to perfect our preflop skills? Everybody playing perfect preflop? looks kind of boring ;) . But still tempting.

      Will you be using 3rd pt rather than this weird thing called ps elephant? I'm full of concerns about the latter. Don't really think they can do a perfect application that beats pt...

      btw: why are you using pokerstove if you think equilator's smarter? ;)
    • xylere
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      So are we on the way to perfect our preflop skills? Everybody playing perfect preflop? looks kind of boring Augenzwinkern . But still tempting.


      no, it will simply increase the gap between players who are using it and those who don't.

      Will you be using 3rd pt rather than this weird thing called ps elephant? I'm full of concerns about the latter. Don't really think they can do a perfect application that beats pt...


      elephant is developed to serve basic needs) I will use the best available software, regardless of how it is called)

      And I normally use equilator)