[NL2-NL10] MSS nl50 T.40-100bb 88 f234 cb get reised

    • aleksandarbogdanov
      aleksandarbogdanov
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      Joined: 29.04.2010 Posts: 144
      Hi,Gerv

      I don't now why but i always thing, that they are trying to bluff me on that flop.

      How i see it the only move is folding.

      I will probable play the same way TT+ on that bord.

      It's only 100hands but,...


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      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $71.85
      MP3:
      $50.95
      CO:
      $19.25
      BU:
      $50.75
      SB:
      $39.50
      BB:
      $19.90
      UTG1:
      $22.50
      UTG2:
      $22.85
      MP1 (Hero):
      $19.25


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8, 8.
      2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($3.75) 3, 2, 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.25, BU raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $17.75, BU calls $11.25.

      Turn: ($39.25) T (2 players)


      River: ($39.25) Q (2 players)


      Final Pot: $39.25.
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    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hey,

      Well you need to think about his range & your equity. So my question is this:

      What do you think his range is for raising you (exactly) and what is your equity against it?

      - Gerv
    • aleksandarbogdanov
      aleksandarbogdanov
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      Joined: 29.04.2010 Posts: 144
      raising range KK,44-TT,AQs,AJs,AQo
      calling range KK,88-TT,55,44,AQs,AJs,AQo


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      Board: 4h 3c 2d
      Dead:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 61,143 % 58,711 % 4,865 % 36,424 % KK, TT-99, 8s8c, 55-44, AQs-AJs, AQo
      Player 2: 38,857 % 36,424 % 4,865 % 58,711 % 8h8d

      If the range that i give him is right I'm EV+1.62$
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by aleksandarbogdanov
      If the range that i give him is right I'm EV+1.62$
      How did you determine this?

      Generall you give him a depolarized range which makes your hand hard to play. If by any case he sees GS+2 Overcards as a monsterdraw, you have to bet/ship this

      If you think he only raises better pairs, sets then you mostly have to bet/fold

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • aleksandarbogdanov
      aleksandarbogdanov
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      Joined: 29.04.2010 Posts: 144
      0,388x23.75$-0,612x15.50$+0.20x12.50$=EV
      (win the pot%) (lost the pot%)(he fold the pot)
      9.215 - 9.486 + 2.50 = 2.229 = 2.23$ - 1.95$ reik(5%pot) = 0.28$



      ''I don't now why but i always thing, that they are trying to bluff me on that flop''.

      It's all comes from here,so if he has AJ or AQ and he reised me to peak up the pot ,and when i shove he see that he need 28,66% and he has 30,04% vs 66+(32% vs 77+)(30,54% vs TT+)so he has to call.

      On this flop 2 :heart: 3 :diamond: 4 :club: i have only over pairs and over cards.
      I don't have sets or A5,65,and over card are folding.

      The right move is bet/fold here even if he does that with AQ it will be only one time,because when he see me shuving 88 he will know that i don't fold any over pair, because i'm a donkey!

      TY,Gerv
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      How did you determine that he folds 20% of the time and what range did you base your equity on?
    • aleksandarbogdanov
      aleksandarbogdanov
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      Joined: 29.04.2010 Posts: 144
      How did you determine that he folds 20% of the time ?


      Originally posted by aleksandarbogdanov
      raising range KK,44-TT,AQs,AJs,AQo
      calling range KK,88-TT,55,44,AQs,AJs,AQo

      raising range is 63 handcombinations (1 combo 8 :spade: 8 :club: ) 4,755%

      calling range is 51 handcombinations (1 combo 8 :spade: 8 :club: ) 3,855%
      he will fold 18,927% of his range.But 66,77 are not in his raising range,because there's no reson to bluff with those* hands,even 99 will just call,so he will reised me with TT+,sets & some bluffs

      what range did you base your equity on?


      Originally posted by aleksandarbogdanov
      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 61,143 % 58,711 % 4,865 % 36,424 % KK, TT-99, 8s8c, 55-44, AQs-AJs, AQo
      Player 2: 38,857 % 36,424 % 4,865 % 58,711 % 8h8d

      P.S. I gave him AQ,AJ because my range is AT+,KQ,66+(some times 55) and i miss the flop 234 but i will bet it freqntly* ,so he can reise me with almost any two because i'm continuing only with TT+(maybe 99)
      I'm obviasly over thinking it.I'm traing to adjust with out any history between us on some theory of what he might do.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Sometimes I shove here for 0EV direct but more reads later on because mostly he is just a multitabling guy so u want to know what the hell he is thinking ont hese kind of boards

      It's not my standard line because 66-99 will not automatically raise nor will he have the time to think u have loads of overcards that u cBet on this board and what your reaction is on his raise etc.