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[NL20-NL50] Nl 50 Fr - Jj

    • nttflox
      Joined: 25.10.2007 Posts: 673
      Full Tilt Poker
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
      9 players

      Stack sizes:
      Hero: $50
      UTG+1: $79.80
      MP1: $27.35
      MP2: $0
      MP3: $29.65
      CO: $40.60
      Button: $44.10
      SB: $77.70
      BB: $12.35

      Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with J J
      Hero raises to $2, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB calls.

      Flop: K A 8 ($6.5, 4 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks.

      Turn: 3 ($6.5, 4 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls.

      River: J ($14.5, 3 players)
      Hero bets $10.
      Uncalled bets: $10 returned to Hero.

      Final pot: $14.5

      Turn bet too loose or is it ok to try and buy pot here?
  • 6 replies
    • chenny8888
      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      turnbet is fine.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would probably bet flop even against 2 opponents.
      You raised UTG and players respect that.
    • Harooon
      Joined: 07.01.2007 Posts: 197
      i think this is well played against 2 opponents, i wouldn't want to be raised and play a big pot with this flop as even a flush draw could raise you here and with the 2 overcards you'd probably have to fold...
      turn bet is good to see where you stand then i'd be in favour of a c/c on the river to let some bluff induce.
    • Thorsten77
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      I c-bet/fold here as its likely I have an A. As played, the turn bet sucks IMO. You can't represent an A here. Even AA/KK are not likely as you have to be concerned that s/o has a flush draw.
    • chenny8888
      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      but with the turnbet you can rep high kings betting for value..?

      or maybe weak aces. in any case, i think fold equity is decent with the turnbet, given the flop checks.

      sry if i sound like i'm criticising your decisions btw, i'm not! i'm just trying to pick your brains so to speak :) .
    • Thorsten77
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      Its good to criticize any decision as one has to think about hands ;)

      However, I don't think you get an A or K to fold. Your hand pretty much looks like you have a mediocre hand like a pocket: with an A or K you'd c-bet the flop. With air, you'd c-bet the flop. The point is that if we can't get better hands (K or A) to fold and don't get value from weaker hands, we shouldn't bet.