[NL20-NL50] Nl 50 Fr - Aq

    • nttflox
      Joined: 25.10.2007 Posts: 673
      Full Tilt Poker
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
      9 players

      Stack sizes:
      UTG: $63.60
      UTG+1: $50
      MP1: $8.95
      MP2: $64.55
      Hero: $49.25
      CO: $17.90
      Button: $51.20
      SB: $52.20
      BB: $50

      Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with A Q
      3 folds, MP2 raises to $1, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, MP2 calls.

      Flop: 4 Q 9 ($8.75, 2 players)
      MP2 bets $5, Hero calls.

      Turn: 3 ($18.75, 2 players)
      MP2 bets $10, Hero calls.

      River: 4 ($38.75, 2 players)
      MP2 is all-in $45.55, Hero folds.
      Uncalled bets: $45.55 returned to MP2.

      Final pot: $38.75
  • 4 replies
    • chenny8888
      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      i prefer to raise the flop for information. if he plays back at me i can play c/f, as on such a drawless board he's almost certainly got 2p/set.

      as played, i call the river.
    • ancha666
      Joined: 30.01.2008 Posts: 169
      If you called turn why wouldn't you call river, I wonder....what the hell were you waiting for? Another diamond? :D :D

      I think villain has set here; well...depends on his style - if he's lose, range could be any Q (with K, J,...)
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      If you decided to call both flop and turr then you probably should make crying call on the river.
      I like rather re-raise flop and take free turn card. Easiest way to find out if you stand against KK, AA or set
    • Thorsten77
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      I think one can debate if one should call the river or fold - this mainly depends whether our opponent may bluff here 3 barrels (I assume most NL50 players don't do this).

      However, I strongly discourage "raising for information". I hate this play. I really do. You just get weaker hands to fold but don't get better hands to fold.

      To see why I hate it, lets assume villains range is something like AQ/KQ, 44,99,QQ+, AK, Air (pure bluffs or middle pockets).

      Assume you raise the flop to see where you stand. You have to invest ~15$. With your raise, you won't get any better hand to fold. Weaker hands won't call you. They will fold (you don't get money from weaker hands) or, even worse, they could bluff shove - I don't assume this happens often, but it would be horrible as YOU fold the best hand.

      Now assume you call the flop. He may decide to barrel again as a bluff. He may bet his KQ for value. Further, you may improve by hitting another Q (beating AA/KK) or an A (beating KK). If you compare these 2 options: you invest the same amount (15$) but get more value from weaker hands by calling instead of raising.