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AK at Stars

    • racenutalways
      racenutalways
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 179
      619 all in pre flop showdowns don't include AA or KK lost 281 for a loss of 46%.

      Run AK-AKs vs all hands on pokerstove, will it be close to 46%???

      How are QQ running at stars?? Glad you asked, 335 all ins, again not including AA or KK lost 115=34%: think P/stove says QQ is 80.560%

      Sets are amazingly losing at Stars flops a set, get it all in 11 times I was up a pr+ gutter, lost 8... sets vs OESD 17 times lost 5 , vs those flush draws, 33 times lost 17 52% loss. vs top pair 67 times, lost 11, 16% losing to a 5% draw, almost double. Set vs o/pr 28 times lost 11, 29% to a 9% draw.

      Pairs are beating overpairs 26% consistently over 569 showdowns over 3 sites.
      this tells me, that our 81% fave is only 74% fave online.
  • 16 replies
    • antstruk
      antstruk
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      Joined: 30.08.2010 Posts: 494
      [ ] Volume
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      Joined: 27.09.2009 Posts: 22,030
      Originally posted by antstruk
      [ ] Volume
      This i'm afraid. Need more volume before we can make any accurate details here
    • TerrorBlade
      TerrorBlade
      Black
      Joined: 16.10.2007 Posts: 1,922
      Guys, I think he's on to something. Maybe I should email stars support?
    • ArtisSkirpa
      ArtisSkirpa
      Silver
      Joined: 20.11.2009 Posts: 83
      Just run better.
    • Agiz19
      Agiz19
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.03.2007 Posts: 1,126
      Originally posted by TerrorBlade
      Guys, I think he's on to something. Maybe I should email stars support?
      yeah... :)
    • kokos99sd
      kokos99sd
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.07.2011 Posts: 2,702
      just another crying-tilted post :f_cry:

      volume UP :f_biggrin:
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,332
      Originally posted by TerrorBlade
      Guys, I think he's on to something. Maybe I should email stars support?
      This.

      But don't be stupid. We can't let them know that we know.......
    • Aruniux
      Aruniux
      Silver
      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 207
      why i never saw ppls cry on FTP ? only on stars ???
      maybe because stars really scam site? :s_cool:
    • gadget51
      gadget51
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Yes but if we let them know we know they know...oh well. never mind :)

      Gl guys,

      Mal.
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      Originally posted by Aruniux
      why i never saw ppls cry on FTP ? only on stars ???
      maybe because stars really scam site? :s_cool:
      Indeed, didn't get a bad beat for months now on ftp
    • Vygantas82
      Vygantas82
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.04.2010 Posts: 364
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($2.94)
      BB ($2.17)
      UTG ($5)
      UTG+1 ($3.89)
      CO ($2)
      Hero ($2.21)

      Dealt to Hero K:spade: A:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, fold, Hero raises to $0.18, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.12

      FLOP ($0.39) J:heart: A:diamond: 5:diamond:

      UTG+1 bets $3.71 (AI), Hero calls $2.03 (AI)

      TURN ($4.45) J:heart: A:diamond: 5:diamond: 2:diamond:

      RIVER ($4.45) J:heart: A:diamond: 5:diamond: 2:diamond: 8:diamond:

      UTG+1 shows A:club: K:diamond:
      (Pre 50%, Flop 52.3%, Turn 60.2%)

      Hero shows K:spade: A:heart:
      (Pre 50%, Flop 47.7%, Turn 39.8%)

      UTG+1 wins $4.16
    • Aruniux
      Aruniux
      Silver
      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 207
      standart :)
    • Vygantas82
      Vygantas82
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.04.2010 Posts: 364
      I'm just wanted that players who had bad beats to feel better. I will not discus noting more because it worthless. Everybody has their own opinion about online poker but you know for most people its not interesting. So gl at the tables
    • Aruniux
      Aruniux
      Silver
      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 207
      the biggest stars problem is not preflop allin vs all in.
      problem you cant play corect post flop, because y hiting flop, trying get value bet, and always river f**k your face

      No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      saw flop | saw showdown

      UTG+1 (t1420)
      MP1 (t2005)
      MP2 (t1820)
      CO (t1380)
      Button (t1430)
      SB (t1480)
      Hero (BB) (t1420)
      UTG (t2545)

      Hero's M: 47.33

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K
      UTG calls t20, 2 folds, MP2 calls t20, 3 folds, Hero bets t80, UTG calls t80, 1 fold

      Flop: (t230) 9, K, 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets t100, Hero raises t260, UTG calls t160

      Turn: (t750) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets t412, UTG calls t412

      River: (t1574) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets t648 (All-In), UTG calls t648

      Total pot: t2870

      Results:
      Hero had A, K (one pair, Kings).
      UTG had K, 6 (straight, nine high).
      Outcome: UTG won t2870
    • JazBenz
      JazBenz
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.02.2010 Posts: 298
      Except what's the explanation when people constantly run bad in live tournaments... can't be the software or shuffler there. Who knows... I also prefer certain sites over others... like on one site (i won't say which cuz I just dont wanna make a site look bad) I kept losing to the most ridiculous hand contructions and constantly lose with AK vs a weaker Ace and so on. Then I tried another site and things actually changed. I am still at that site where AK wins vs A rags once in a while. lol - of course it's possible that at the first site mentioned, the worst quality of players are the majority, yet I wonder why the hell they seem to get rewarded for it. Luckily that is not my experience at the site where I am playing now.
    • Aruniux
      Aruniux
      Silver
      Joined: 04.04.2011 Posts: 207
      No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 500/1000 Blinds (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      saw flop | saw showdown

      BB (t7293)
      UTG (t18065)
      UTG+1 (t8062)
      MP1 (t11500)
      MP2 (t9257)
      CO (t6420)
      Hero (Button) (t4857)
      SB (t19277)

      Hero's M: 3.24

      Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
      UTG bets t3000, 2 folds, MP2 raises t9157, 1 fold, Hero calls t4757, 1 fold, BB calls t6193, UTG calls t6157

      Flop: (t30764) 10, 8, 9 (4 players)

      Turn: (t30764) 9 (4 players)

      River: (t30764) J (4 players)

      Total pot: t30764

      Results:
      Hero had K, K (two pair, Kings and nines).
      BB had J, J (full house, Jacks over nines).
      UTG had Q, Q (straight, Queen high).
      MP2 had 8, 8 (full house, eights over nines).
      Outcome: BB won t27636