[NL20-NL50] KK on superfishy table

    • ancha666
      ancha666
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.01.2008 Posts: 169
      Poker Room skin
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
      10 players
      Converter

      Stack sizes:
      Hero: $24.75
      UTG+1: $21.80
      UTG+2: $20.65
      MP1: $25.00
      MP2: $15.25
      MP3: $31.80
      CO: $3.00
      Button: $12.55
      SB: $4.50
      BB: $39.35

      Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG with K K
      Hero raises to $1.5, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

      Flop: 3 3 J ($7.65, 5 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.5, MP1 calls, MP3 raises to $15, BB folds, Hero ??



      "raises to $15" (sorry for mess but converter is not working as it should) was very passive player but quiet loose (30/0/1 over SMALL sample).
      Ok. So this was hand where I thought I knew EXACTLY where I stand; after flop I checked only to see what action is coming over all fishes there and I didn't really bother about first bet and second call (ok, maybe 3 but what the hell), what bothered me was villains 15$ raise. Why the hell would so passive player raise like that? It couldn't be JJ, he would slow play it...so the only range is AA and QQ. Put him on QQ.
      What do you think? I pushed anyway, of course...
  • 6 replies
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      Can you edit the players so we know who is who?, i.e. which position is vilain?
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      no idea what's going on sorry. really hard to follow.

      if you can fix the hand, i'll post my (most likely wrong) evaluation :) .
    • ancha666
      ancha666
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.01.2008 Posts: 169
      chenny, fixed!

      Thanks for comments!
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      If this is a very passive player, then you should fold, because you have invested almost nothing.

      I think you should have bet this flop. There shouldn't be a single 3 against you, and any J will have to fancy their chance, and you need to protect against the FD, so nearly potsize would be good. Against that, you could definitley fold if MP3 pushed his whole stack over the top.

      As played, you have to put everything in and hope that your overpair is still good or holds up against the draw. OR. Fold, let $1.5 go, and wait.

      I think the fold is correct.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      IMO, bet PSB flop. To many callers and you need to protect
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      On this flop, I decide to go broke. A 3 is unlikely, AA/JJ would be a cooler. So the only question is whether I should bet/call or c/r. This mainly depends on the players behind me (I want that somebody bets - I would hate a freecard). However, if I decide to c/r, I go with the hand if I don't have a really really good read or the action goes like "all-in, all-in, all-in" from 3 solid players.