[NL2-NL10] Hand Evaluation Coaching - Homework #11 06.12.11

    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello PokerStrategists,

      as some of you may have heard that we have a homework in each of our No-Limit Hand Evaluation Coachings.

      Here is the homework for the coaching from Dec 6th, please note:

      • Everybody is invited to share his thoughts here regardless if you joined the last coaching or not.
      • Whoever is active in the homework threads can get a free database analysis by us which helps you to improve your game.

      Find the hand below waiting for you opinions and analysis posted in this thread. Furthermore do not forget to join our next coaching on Tuesday, December 13rd at 6 PM GMT.

      $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

      MP: $42.94
      CO: $21.70
      Hero (BTN): $20.00
      SB: $20.66
      BB: $6.00
      UTG: $23.22

      Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with A :club: Q :club:
      UTG calls $0.20, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, SB calls $0.70, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.60

      Flop: ($3.40) A :diamond: 4 :heart: 6 :club: (4 players)
      SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2.10, SB folds, UTG calls $2.10, CO folds

      Turn: ($7.60) K :diamond: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $5.40, UTG raises to $20.32, Hero calls $11.70 all in

      River: ($41.80) K :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)


      opponent is aggressive 52/19 not much hands
  • 13 replies
    • liguolong
      liguolong
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      Joined: 18.03.2010 Posts: 731
      I probably would fold turn.
    • Saren113
      Saren113
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      I would 3 bet for value preflop, in position(He will call with worse).
      If i hit I am going broke unless it's a really disguisting flop like A T J.
      The best thing with 3 betting preflop is that we can easily fold preflop if they 4 bets us or if they jam. We are so crushed against that range.
    • 0744379
      0744379
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      Joined: 02.06.2011 Posts: 435
      I think a 3bet pre-flop would be a good line but not totally necessary. With those stats theres a chance UTG would call anyway.

      As played I would make a bigger bet on the flop like $2.80 or $3. I know this inflates the pot but we are giving opponent great odds even though it is a pretty dry board. After betting larger on the flop I'm not sure about betting the turn as the pot is just over half our stack. Maybe a check call line might be better.

      I don't think I would call that all-in as played.
    • cpers
      cpers
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      Joined: 17.04.2011 Posts: 563
      I would 3bet preflop for value. If we hit our ace with flush draw, I'm going broke.
      As played I'd bet almost potsize on the flop - too many villains. While on the turn with no AF stats, I think it's better to fold here.
    • frako17
      frako17
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      Joined: 21.10.2010 Posts: 67
      Call preflop IP is fine for me.
      I would bet bigger for value on flop like 2.9.
      I would check back turn and re-evaluate river.

      As played i would fold turn.
    • Nocco88
      Nocco88
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      Joined: 23.03.2010 Posts: 805
      Well I think here the call and the 3-bet is good also preflop. On the flop I would bet around 2.60. And I fold on the turn, because he is check-raiseing and that move is very strong and our second top pair won't be enough a lot of times at this situation.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Preflop: Most likely the play here is totally fine. AQs is still good hand to play even postflop and in multiway pot. We may even see worse flushes if he hit for example the flush.
      Postflop: The opponent has just so wide range and if we picking such a line as Bet/Bet there is no way we can Bet/Fold it. One option to keep weaker PPs in the play would be to Check behind on the flop while it's super dry but of course against such a loose opponent I doubt that we gonna play this way. And for the given odds we won't be able to Bet/Fold the turn while the opponent may easily have a lot worse Ax hands even there.

      Best Regards.
    • 0744379
      0744379
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      Joined: 02.06.2011 Posts: 435
      Interesting hand. Is the database analysis the same as posting your HEM stats in the locker room or is it a more complete analysis?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by 0744379
      Interesting hand. Is the database analysis the same as posting your HEM stats in the locker room or is it a more complete analysis?
      It's more complete, we will go through a lot different filters and stuff. :) Point out common leaks.
    • 0744379
      0744379
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      Cool how or when do we get started?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Originally posted by 0744379
      Cool how or when do we get started?
      What do you mean? :P Most likely the next database analyze will be for chocular77, next week.
    • 0744379
      0744379
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      I mean how do you pick whos database to analyse?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by 0744379
      I mean how do you pick whos database to analyse?
      Who are active in the Homework during month. :) The homework is posted in the Coaching Thread.