[NL2-NL10] [Nl5 Fr] Ak

    • Lamash
      Lamash
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.08.2010 Posts: 1,577
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
      SB ($3.70)
      BB ($5.87)
      Hero ($5)
      UTG+1 ($7.38)
      UTG+2 ($2.40)
      MP1 ($9.20)
      MP2 ($5)
      CO ($10)
      BTN ($2.10)

      Dealt to Hero A:club: K:heart:

      Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.20, fold, BB calls $0.15

      FLOP ($0.62) A:heart: J:heart: 9:club:

      BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BTN calls $0.45, BB raises to $1.75, Hero ???


      BB stats: 24/13/2.3 (83 Hands)

      Against a TAG player, call or All in?
  • 4 replies
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      Hi, Lamash!

      What do you think is his range there?

      One thing to consider is: you are raising yourself from UTG, which means you have a strong range. You easily have AK/AQ (TP), AJ (two pair) and even AA, JJ and 99 in your opening range - all hands he can't really expect you to fold every time. On top of that, when the BB check/raises he is raising out of position in a multiway pot, where the BTN has already shown interest in the pot and looks to have at least a draw.

      So... what do you think his range is? Do you think you beat it?

      Even if he has a strong draw you're not happy... so this is a typical situation where you are either way behind or only slightly ahead. Not worth it in my opinion.

      If he has any bluffs in his range you'll just make him fold if you re-raise (and I don't think he has many pure bluffs, if any), which is bad. But just calling his raise is even worse, because we will have a huge pot and the BTN is still to act. We have no idea to do if the BTN reraises, and we don't really have a plan for further streets as our hand cannot really improve that much (if a :heart: or a K comes they might even improve villain's holdings).

      Sad as it is, I think this is an excellent spot to shrug, find a fold and move on - at least if we don't have a read that SB bluffs a whole lot on these spots. But if he does, he is the one playing bad, not us.
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      Just to complement, if he has a weaker draw:


      Board: J:heart: A:heart: 9:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    67.17%  67.17%   0.00% { AcKh }
      MP3    32.83%  32.83%   0.00% { 7h6h }



      But if he has a combo draw:


      Board: J:heart: A:heart: 9:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    50.40%  50.40%   0.00% { AcKh }
      MP3    49.60%  49.60%   0.00% { QhTh }



      Now AJ:


      Board: J:heart: A:heart: 9:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    19.34%  19.09%   0.25% { AcKh }
      MP3    80.66%  80.40%   0.25% { AJs, AJo }


      And something like 99:


      Board: J:heart: A:heart: 9:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2     7.07%   7.07%   0.00% { AcKh }
      MP3    92.93%  92.93%   0.00% { 99 }



      As you can see, if we are behind we are dead. If we are ahead, we only win 2/3 of the time anyway. In your case we still have 80% of our stack to invest!

      Of course we play against ranges and not individual hands, I'm just posting these to show you how we play against his different possible holdings. Do you want to do the exercise yourself and try to build a range for him on equilab and evaluate our equity against his range? I'd really like to take a look if you want to post it here.
    • Lamash
      Lamash
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.08.2010 Posts: 1,577
      Hello luizsilveira,

      Excellent evaluation. I think you've explained in detail everything that I want to know. And i'm not familiar with the equilab.

      Thank you very much!
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      Originally posted by Lamash
      Hello luizsilveira,

      Excellent evaluation.
      Thank you! I'm very glad you liked it.

      Originally posted by Lamash
      I think you've explained in detail everything that I want to know. And i'm not familiar with the equilab.
      Well, I thought that could be the case. That is why I asked since it's always a good time to start messing with it :)

      It's a pretty powerful tool for analysis.


      Originally posted by Lamash
      Thank you very much!
      You're very welcome!