How many people clear the $50 PS stake?

    • Butterballa
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      I'm 28 points away.. Just wondering how often people reach the 100 points necessary to clear the stake money, and what kind of goals should one set after attaining it? Currently sitting at $92 and trying to figure out whether I should start playing some SnG's or stick to the cash tables. My BB/100 has dropped quite a bit since yesterday.
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    • abhi147
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      Experiment and see
      Theres no hard rule that says when you should sngs and when cash games

      SnGs are great fun if you can have some patience. But do understand SnG gameplay is completely different from cash games

      Read some articles

      1 days BB/100 is pointless to even discuss
      Before anything can be relevant you should have atleast 30K hands
    • Butterballa
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      Thanks. I'm sitting at 3400 right now, still up but I realize the sample size is very small. I still have a lot to learn. How would you say SnG play differs? It seems like you need to make bank ASAP or you die to blinds and ante later on, many times I get trash cards and I'm never able to make a stack before I'm out.
    • suitedaces1701
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      In SNGs, you play very tight at early stages. Loosen up when in middle stages. When you get to 10BB or less, you start the push or fold phase. You should try the 30 day free trial of SNG wizard. It will help A LOT!
    • Butterballa
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      Originally posted by suitedaces1701
      In SNGs, you play very tight at early stages. Loosen up when in middle stages. When you get to 10BB or less, you start the push or fold phase. You should try the 30 day free trial of SNG wizard. It will help A LOT!
      Thanks, I'll check it out :)
    • Gantz189
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      You should take into consideration how much rake your paying per SNG. It could drastically affect your winnings.
    • kolonel71
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      Originally posted by Gantz189
      You should take into consideration how much rake your paying per SNG. It could drastically affect your winnings.
      At most sites, the lower level SNG rake is brutal.

      I am sure someone can do the math in regards to how much it affects/effects your ROI.
    • purplefizz
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      hi butterballa,

      i think anyone who wants to clear the $50 can definitely do it. the requirements are very reasonable and the time limit was made with beginners in mind.

      setting goals is a very good idea. you can check out some blogs in the blog section to see how some of our members approach the game. i guess the most basic point is to set goals which are within your power to accomplish such as:
      - read x articles or watch x videos
      - play x number of hands
      - dont tilt, etc

      as opposed to win x amount of money because really you cant control variance so its pretty pointless. at the beginning of your poker journey, you really should be concentrating on improving your game so that you can beat higher stakes.


      smiles,
      wendy
    • Butterballa
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      Originally posted by purplefizz
      hi butterballa,

      i think anyone who wants to clear the $50 can definitely do it. the requirements are very reasonable and the time limit was made with beginners in mind.

      setting goals is a very good idea. you can check out some blogs in the blog section to see how some of our members approach the game. i guess the most basic point is to set goals which are within your power to accomplish such as:
      - read x articles or watch x videos
      - play x number of hands
      - dont tilt, etc

      as opposed to win x amount of money because really you cant control variance so its pretty pointless. at the beginning of your poker journey, you really should be concentrating on improving your game so that you can beat higher stakes.


      smiles,
      wendy
      I did it! I finally cleared, took me 5300 hands but I cleared it and have tripled my money. YAY!

      The game is tough.. a lot tougher than I imagined when I made my first deposits elsewhere, but I have a very solid record thus far (small sample size, I know) and I intend on running this up as much as I can.

      Thank you again pokerstrategy, for any non-believers out there, trust me, you CAN do it if you put your mind to it!
    • IngridN
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      Originally posted by Butterballa
      Originally posted by purplefizz
      hi butterballa,

      i think anyone who wants to clear the $50 can definitely do it. the requirements are very reasonable and the time limit was made with beginners in mind.

      setting goals is a very good idea. you can check out some blogs in the blog section to see how some of our members approach the game. i guess the most basic point is to set goals which are within your power to accomplish such as:
      - read x articles or watch x videos
      - play x number of hands
      - dont tilt, etc

      as opposed to win x amount of money because really you cant control variance so its pretty pointless. at the beginning of your poker journey, you really should be concentrating on improving your game so that you can beat higher stakes.


      smiles,
      wendy
      I did it! I finally cleared, took me 5300 hands but I cleared it and have tripled my money. YAY!

      The game is tough.. a lot tougher than I imagined when I made my first deposits elsewhere, but I have a very solid record thus far (small sample size, I know) and I intend on running this up as much as I can.

      Thank you again pokerstrategy, for any non-believers out there, trust me, you CAN do it if you put your mind to it!
      awww, I love happy endings! well done! :)
    • abhi147
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      Wow that is awesome man
      You trippled your money and you say games are tough :P

      Can you let me know your BB/100 ?
    • Spungeh
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      when i got my BR, i had shit BRM. and cleared the bonus in like 300 hands lol..

      I did quadruple my BR, but still...
    • patszerdonk
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      Originally posted by Spungeh
      when i got my BR, i had shit BRM. and cleared the bonus in like 300 hands lol..

      I did quadruple my BR, but still...
      me: 2 hands!

      one hand on the mouse and the other holding a cigarette. I was very tense when I started to play with money
    • abhi147
      abhi147
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      Originally posted by patszerdonk
      Originally posted by Spungeh
      when i got my BR, i had shit BRM. and cleared the bonus in like 300 hands lol..

      I did quadruple my BR, but still...
      me: 2 hands!

      one hand on the mouse and the other holding a cigarette. I was very tense when I started to play with money
      Lol N1
    • Butterballa
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      Originally posted by patszerdonk
      Originally posted by Spungeh
      when i got my BR, i had shit BRM. and cleared the bonus in like 300 hands lol..

      I did quadruple my BR, but still...
      me: 2 hands!

      one hand on the mouse and the other holding a cigarette. I was very tense when I started to play with money
      LOL! Exact same here.

      My BB/100 for whoever was asking, is sitting at 5.16 over 6400 hands so far. I need to start studying some more now, I seem to have levelled off up and down around $150 on my graph, with small dips and raises around that level.

      As for BRM, I do understand that.. But I think it's my playstyle that is keeping the bankroll safe. You aren't gonna see me push before the flop with anything but AA or KK. I can't afford to push with lower pocket pairs at this point, if I had a bigger roll I would definitely start doing so when the game called for it. I almost never risk a max buyin on a table unless I'm 90% sure I have it, and thus far I'm right a lot more than I'm wrong.

      Also I mix up my play a lot.. I'm finding that I psyche a lot of the regulars out, I'm getting a pretty solid hitrate on large pot bluffs and such. I dunno, I think I have a natural talent for this, I have always been quite good at reading people, and I STILL find that when I'm losing big pots, I had the strong feeling I was gonna lose but didn't trust my gut. I'm gonna stop doing that and start listening to my gut now and I think that should cut some losses.
    • Butterballa
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      Originally posted by Spungeh
      when i got my BR, i had shit BRM. and cleared the bonus in like 300 hands lol..

      I did quadruple my BR, but still...
      300 hands? How the heck did you do that? It took me 5500 and I tripled mine, 100 party points is something like 50$ in rake or more (I think it's 2party points for every 1$ in rake), that's phenomenal :D

      Edit: I mean that's phenomenal if you cleared it in 300, that's crazy fast!
    • ryciaga
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      5300 hands, which limit do you play..? NL10?
    • Butterballa
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      Originally posted by ryciaga
      5300 hands, which limit do you play..? NL10?
      is that .5/.10? If so then yes, that's what i've been playing. Very carefully.
    • gadget51
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      Guys, I am very successful at micro-limits(nl2-nl25) and my rules are;

      1. BankRoll Management

      2. BankRoll Management

      3. BankRoll Management


      4 anything else


      5 Get the message?


      Regards and have fun,

      Mal.
    • Butterballa
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      Okay guys, here's the plan then.. While I am doing well at my current limit, I will move down to .2/.4 and start playing looser. The only reason I'm doing well where I am, as I said, is because I take very few risks and I tighten up massively if I suffer a bad beat or big loss.

      Now that I have tripled that 50, I suppose a good idea now would be to play the lower limits and start playing the coinflips that I wouldn't play before. I would never push all in with a pair even headsup at .5/.10, but I guess if I move down I wouldn't be so worried about losing a BI. As of now, the only hands I'm willing to push pre-flop are AA and KK. Nothing else. I realize at times I am losing out on money, but I have not been willing to take the risks I would if I had the proper bankroll.

      I will take everyones advice and move down to .2/.4. I'll start taking more risks, loosen up a lot for a while, see how that plays out. If I start doing worse than I am now though, I'll move back up and continue playing loose nitty (oxymoron of the decade)

      Would any of you have good forum articles you suggest reading on BRM, and in general? Would be much appreciated :f_love:
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