[NL2-NL10] NL2 - FR - A8s - two-pair on monotone flop

    • cpers
      cpers
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.04.2011 Posts: 565
      PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      MP: $1.77
      MP+1: $2.92
      LP: $2.02
      CO: $2.45
      BTN: $2.00
      Hero (SB): $2.03
      BB: $2.00
      UTG: $2.00
      UTG+1: $1.43

      Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A:heart: 8:heart:

      fold, fold, MP raises to $0.06, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, fold

      Flop: ($0.14, 2 players) 8:diamond: T:diamond: A:diamond:
      Hero checks, MP bets $0.08, Hero raises to $0.28 ???

      Hello,

      It's a bad idea to slowplay here right? I chose to ch/r rather than donkbet. It's a HU pot, so I expected him to bet it himself.

      Thanks,
      cpers
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello cpers,

      Rather don't Call OOP with such hands. You may way too often put yourself into difficult spots postflop.

      As played I'd really rather play for pot control on such a monochrome board and not build up the pot. We might make too many mistakes on further streets.

      Best Regards.
    • cpers
      cpers
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.04.2011 Posts: 565
      I thought it was a good line. I ch/r here to take down the pot right away and just give up the hand if he calls.
      With this pot .28/(.14+.08+.28)=.56, so I need him to fold 56% of the time, to make a profit here. Is this wrong? I don't include his calls because my plan was to give up this hand if he calls.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by cpers
      I thought it was a good line. I ch/r here to take down the pot right away and just give up the hand if he calls.
      With this pot .28/(.14+.08+.28)=.56, so I need him to fold 56% of the time, to make a profit here. Is this wrong? I don't include his calls because my plan was to give up this hand if he calls.
      Why do you want to gain fold equity? You have a made hand. If you are raising then you want to gain protection for your hand or either go broke. But for example against any made hand:

      Board: 8:diamond: T:diamond: A:diamond:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    54.90%  52.88%   2.02% { TT, 55, AKs, ATs, KdQd, QdJd, AKo, ATo, AhQd, AhJd, JdTh }
      UTG+1  45.10%  43.08%   2.02% { Ah8h }

      We ain't even doing that great. ;) So for that given reason I wouldn't really go for stacks here but rather take pot control without even knowing the opponent. We are pretty much flipping against his range.