[NL2-NL10] I get by with a little help from my fish

    • Rastlin1
      Rastlin1
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.08.2008 Posts: 189
      Nice hand I think


      IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 10 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      CO: $3.39 (33.9 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      SB: $11.83 (118.3 bb)
      BB: $11.82 (118.2 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $10.91 (109.1 bb)
      UTG+1: $1.04 (10.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
      MP1: $10 (100 bb)
      MP2: $4.64 (46.4 bb)
      MP3: $13.45 (134.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7 7
      Hero raises to $0.40, 6 folds, BTN raises to $1.35, SB folds, BB calls $1.25, Hero calls $0.95

      Flop: ($4.10) 4 7 6 (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $2.90, BB raises to $10.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.56 and is all-in, BTN calls $5.75 and is all-in

      Turn: ($31.87) 2 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
      River: ($31.87) Q (3 players, 3 are all-in)

      Results: $31.87 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: 4 7 6 2 Q
      BTN showed K K and lost (-$10 net)
      BB showed J K and lost (-$10.91 net)
      Hero mucked 7 7 and won $29.87 ($18.96 net)
  • 9 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Rastlin1,

      Well, I wouldn't say like easy Call preflop. :) You had there only 12,4:1 odds which means that you had to be sure that you will get paid postflop really often. For 3bet pots we usually should use Call15 rule.

      Best Regards.
    • Rastlin1
      Rastlin1
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.08.2008 Posts: 189
      Im confused

      I called the reraise of 90 which means I needed them to have 18 for the call 20 rule (i know 15 works too)

      both button and BB had full stacks so did that meet the requirement?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Rastlin1
      Im confused

      I called the reraise of 90 which means I needed them to have 18 for the call 20 rule (i know 15 works too)

      both button and BB had full stacks so did that meet the requirement?
      Well, do you think you will get both stacks here? :) Or what's the specific question you are asking?
    • Rastlin1
      Rastlin1
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.08.2008 Posts: 189
      I guess I dont understand where I have gone wrong in the hand - each call I met the criteria of call 15 so thats where I am confused
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Rastlin1
      I guess I dont understand where I have gone wrong in the hand - each call I met the criteria of call 15 so thats where I am confused
      Well, explain me how you get Call15 here. :)
    • Rastlin1
      Rastlin1
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.08.2008 Posts: 189
      preflop raise to 0.40 - get reraised to 1.35 meaning I need to call 0.95 more

      BB calls the reraise and has a full stack

      So for me to call 15 its 0.95*15= 14.25 (right?) and between the 2 players they have 21bucks
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Rastlin1
      preflop raise to 0.40 - get reraised to 1.35 meaning I need to call 0.95 more

      BB calls the reraise and has a full stack

      So for me to call 15 its 0.95*15= 14.25 (right?) and between the 2 players they have 21bucks
      Well, read my text earlier. :P We can't put all the stacks together since I doubt that we will get both stacks. :)
    • Rastlin1
      Rastlin1
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.08.2008 Posts: 189
      Ok we cannot be certain that we get both no

      So now my question would be, would you have folded?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Rastlin1
      Ok we cannot be certain that we get both no

      So now my question would be, would you have folded?
      Since I expect to get paid from overpairs and on those limits very often it happens it shouldn't be the problem. But as you may understand for example if the BTN is 3betting a lot then we most likely wont be able to Call so profitable. His range has rather to be stronger which very likely goes broke postflop.