[NL2-NL10] NL4; SH: K6 frm BB agnst shortstack completer

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      Hero (BB): $4.02 (100.5 bb)
      MP: $4.96 (124 bb)
      CO: $2.09 (52.2 bb)
      BTN: $4.71 (117.8 bb)
      SB: $0.92 (23 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K 6
      3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.12, SB folds

      Results: $0.08 pot
      Hero mucked K 6 and won $0.08 ($0.04 net)

      Our opponent has the following stats:
      VP/PFR/AF/WTSD/hands 38/0/2.0/33/28

      Is this raise ok against such a player?
  • 8 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Well, once again. Do you plan to go broke? :) Don't raise if you don't plan to go broke! Unless you expect him to fold very often.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      1) Do we really commit ourselves with this raise?
      2) Can we not make the assumption that he folds often with such a VP?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      1) Do we really commit ourselves with this raise?

      Well, usually if I am raising here:
      a) I know he folds a lot
      b) I am doing it for value and planning to go broke.

      All other hands as I said, Check and see the flop.

      2) Can we not make the assumption that he folds often with such a VP?

      With such VPIP? Rather not. :D Especially if he even completes like this. But why don't you just find out with normal hand first? And then start raising looser.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      With such VPIP? Rather not. grin Especially if he even completes like this. But why don't you just find out with normal hand first? And then start raising looser.


      This is gold.

      Well, usually if I am raising here: a) I know he folds a lot b) I am doing it for value and planning to go broke.


      If I knew that he folds a lot, what would be wrong with raise/folding?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      If I knew that he folds a lot, what would be wrong with raise/folding?

      What do you think yourself? :)
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      I think that it would be an ok play. We are far from committing ourselves and our raises get the pot often enough for us to make a profit.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      I think that it would be an ok play. We are far from committing ourselves and our raises get the pot often enough for us to make a profit.
      But you will rarely even see to have much fold equity against those opponents who have small stacks. That's the main problem and obviously they are never folding any made hand.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Ok, if that really is the case (if shortstacks don't fold too often in spots like this), then it makes sense to raise for value only.