[NL2-NL10] KJs damn

    • Shady9966
      Shady9966
      Global
      Joined: 31.01.2008 Posts: 1,314
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($60.43)
      BB ($29.40)
      UTG ($25.92)
      UTG+1 ($39.31)
      Hero ($56.45)
      BTN ($25.22)

      Dealt to Hero K:club: J:club:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $2

      FLOP ($9.35) 8:diamond: K:spade: 7:diamond:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6.40, BTN folds, UTG+1 raises to $14, Hero calls $7.60

      TURN ($37.35) 8:diamond: K:spade: 7:diamond: 2:heart:

      UTG+1 bets $20, Hero raises to $39.45 (AI), UTG+1 calls $2.31 (AI)

      RIVER ($81.97) 8:diamond: K:spade: 7:diamond: 2:heart: T:diamond:

      UTG+1 shows A:club: K:diamond:
      (Pre 71%, Flop 86.6%, Turn 93.2%)

      Hero shows K:club: J:club:
      (Pre 29%, Flop 13.4%, Turn 6.8%)

      UTG+1 wins $79.97

      44/14 hands 232 AF 1.2

      so bad fold preflop right?
  • 7 replies
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,074
      I think you cannot 3bet bluff him preflop, he doesn't look like a guy who likes to fold.

      On flop I think its also overplayed. Why call his raise on flop?
    • Echoes88
      Echoes88
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.09.2008 Posts: 1,665
      easy fold pre imo, postflop it seems a massive overplay while you are ~160bb effectively deep.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Shady9966,

      Preflop: Do you think that he will fold to your 3bet? Call with any worse? Also as I know you are often overplaying your hand as TP then going for 3bet is really horrible here.

      As played
      Postflop: Pretty much that even happened, what kind of worse hands do you expect here to see which he is Check/Raising?

      Best Regards.
    • Shady9966
      Shady9966
      Global
      Joined: 31.01.2008 Posts: 1,314
      Ok, so the line will be to fold? or to call?

      if you call what line you take if you hit , what about if you don't hit?
    • sebralane
      sebralane
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.09.2009 Posts: 146
      since villan is 44/14 it would be instafold after 3bet preflop
      i mean it would be iizy preflop laydown
      atleast for me...
      that range 14 show he only raises stong hands like QQ+ and AK
      in dat range we deffenely behind
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,074
      Maybe it is possible to call for flush value, he is deep and loose. Also still we could win small pots with top pair hands, but have to not overplay them. 14 range is tight, but fish are not positionally aware, so it could contain JT for example easily I think, or even some random worse hand.
      And he is not aggresive post flop, so we can easily control the pot size - if we hit top pair, we can bet once for example, or twice if there are darws and check till showdown.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Shady9966
      Ok, so the line will be to fold? or to call?

      if you call what line you take if you hit , what about if you don't hit?
      With knowing how you overplay your TP then rather fold it preflop. You will put yourself too often into marginal spots with them. Get to know postflop and then start playing with such hands and try to understand why you play such hands.