# Rakeback and full tilt store

• Bronze
Joined: 15.11.2007
Hello,

does the things you ''buy'' at fulltilt online store affect your rakeback? And if they do, how much

What is the best rakeback calculator? Is the pokergrapher the most exact calculator, because it uses poketracker database, or does the rake calculate differently than in pokertracker?
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• Bronze
Joined: 15.11.2007
cmon, no one knows????
• Bronze
Joined: 25.03.2008
Yes, it directly affects your rakebake, when you buy some stuff at fulltilt-shop.
And you can calculate your rakeback by yourself...

FTPOINTS = GrossRake
GrossRake divided through the players at the table = NetRake

( NetRake - BONUS ) * rakeback percentage = Rakeback

example:

5000 FTP : 9 = 555 NetRake (fullring table)

555 * 0.27 = 150 RakeBack
• Bronze
Joined: 15.11.2007
ok tnx, but then if one t-shirt costs 1500ftp that is 1500/9 (full ring) = 166,66 *0,27 = 44,9 bucks? that is way to0 expensive, isn't it better to get the rake then, and withdraw? I mean, I'm not talking about t-shirt, but the other more expensive stuff, it's better to get rakeback and withdraw
• Bronze
Joined: 05.09.2007
Originally posted by Schafblufft
Yes, it directly affects your rakebake, when you buy some stuff at fulltilt-shop.
And you can calculate your rakeback by yourself...

FTPOINTS = GrossRake
GrossRake divided through the players at the table = NetRake

( NetRake - BONUS ) * rakeback percentage = Rakeback

example:

5000 FTP : 9 = 555 NetRake (fullring table)

555 * 0.27 = 150 RakeBack
Ummm. That calculation might be right, but spending your earned points should have no effect on your rakeback. You contributed your rake, you earned your points but afaik they are independant of each other and do not correlate to each other for the rakeback calculation.
• Bronze
Joined: 30.11.2007
Hi there
Are you sure that using your FullTilt points to buy stuff from there store affects your rakeback? That isn't a bonus so I don't understand how that changes anything.
• Bronze
Joined: 15.11.2007
yeah it's strange to me also, because if it affects your rake, the stuff in that store is quite expensive
• Bronze
Joined: 25.03.2008

he tells us, that bonus and shop decreases your rakeback (FTP FAQ, like he said)
• Global
Joined: 31.03.2008
so are we not allowed to buy anything? i wanna buy something
• Bronze
Joined: 11.07.2007
@matkov: 1500FTP = 7,5\$ (1FTP = 0,005\$)

( NetRake - 7,5) * rakeback percentage = Rakeback

In German Forum:

"Was wird vom Nettorake noch alles abgezogen?

Einkäufe im Shop für Points (ungefähr 0.005\$ pro Point)

Beispiele:

1. In einem Monat wurden 100\$ an Nettorake erzeugt. Außerdem hat man noch 70\$ an Bonus erspielt. Um den tatsächlichen Nettorake zu ermitteln werden diese 70\$ jetzt von den 100\$ abgezogen. Somit beträgt der tatsächliche Nettorake 30\$.

2. In einem Monat wurden 100\$ an Nettorake erzeugt. Der Spieler hat sich für 1200 Punkte etwas im Full Tilt Shop bestellt. 1200 Punkte entsprechen 6\$. Um den tatsächlichen Nettorake zu ermitteln werden diese 6\$ vom Nettorake abgezogen. Der tatsächliche Nettorake beträgt also 94.00\$.

3. In einem Monat wurden 100\$ an Nettorrake erzeugt. Der Spiele hat 70\$ an Bonus erspielt und für 1200 Punkte etwas im Shop bestellt. Der tatsächliche Nettorake beträgt dann 24.00\$ (100\$ - 70\$ - 6\$)."
• Bronze
Joined: 25.10.2007
Damn, it seems it's true. If you buy something from the store 27% of the product will be paid from your rakeback money. Or at least this is what I read somewhere. Please someone tell me I'm wrong
• Bronze
Joined: 15.11.2007
I ordered a tee shirt last month, and now I got exactly the same amount of rakeback that pokergrapher calculated for me. I dunno, I guess it didn't affect my rakeback afterall maybe next month it will. Have a nice day guys, me is happy