Better play in this situation?

    • astrobeaver
      astrobeaver
      Basic
      Joined: 30.12.2011 Posts: 15
      Hi guys

      So I lost an important hand in a 10 player double-up tournament. (three players had been knocked out at the stage). What do you think should have been the best play in this hand?

      I know my kicker wasn't very good but I was putting him on a weak ace that connected with the middle pair. Yes, KJ seemed in his range but I couldn't convince myself for AJ KJ or QJ.


      Merge - $5+$0.40|<> NL - Holdem - 7 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BTN: 1,045.00
      SB: 2,091.00
      Hero (BB): 1,885.00
      UTG: 2,657.00
      UTG+1: 2,954.00
      MP: 2,518.00
      CO: 1,850.00

      BTN posts ante 5.00, SB posts ante 5.00, Hero posts ante 5.00, UTG posts ante 5.00, UTG+1 posts ante 5.00, MP posts ante 5.00, CO posts ante 5.00, SB posts SB 50.00, Hero posts BB 100.00

      Pre Flop: (185.00) Hero has 7:spade: J:diamond:

      fold, fold, MP calls 100.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

      Flop: (285.00, 2 players) J:club: 2:spade: 5:diamond:
      Hero checks, MP bets 285.00, Hero raises to 870.00, MP raises to 2,413.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 910.00 and is all-in

      Turn: (3845.00, 2 players) 2:club:

      River: (3845.00, 2 players) 9:spade:

      Hero shows 7:spade: J:diamond: (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (PreFlop 26%, Flop 14%, Turn 15%)
      MP shows K:club: J:heart: (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (PreFlop 74%, Flop 86%, Turn 85%)
      MP wins 0.00
      MP wins 3,845.00
  • 3 replies
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
      Black
      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 5,877
      Don't post results :)

      I would check-fold, if player is not pretty bad. Problem is that flop is very dry. What hands is villain likely playing like this? If he is decent I don't really see weaker hands in his range. If he is some spewy maniac then it is way better to check-call and let him continue his bluffs.

      If he is passive kind or unknown then betting flop around half pot is best, but still fold to raise and be careful on future streets.
    • astrobeaver
      astrobeaver
      Basic
      Joined: 30.12.2011 Posts: 15
      Originally posted by ghaleon
      Don't post results :)

      I would check-fold, if player is not pretty bad. Problem is that flop is very dry. What hands is villain likely playing like this? If he is decent I don't really see weaker hands in his range. If he is some spewy maniac then it is way better to check-call and let him continue his bluffs.

      If he is passive kind or unknown then betting flop around half pot is best, but still fold to raise and be careful on future streets.
      thanks!

      Sorry this was my first post... will put the results in the spoiler section from now on :)

      I didn't particularly like my all-in call. The guy took around 40 seconds of timebank and then shoved. (probably "trying" to make it look like a tough decision). I don't think this influenced my decision by much.

      Would a decent player generally 3-bet there on the flop with a middle or bottom pair?
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
      Black
      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 5,877
      Originally posted by astrobeaver
      Would a decent player generally 3-bet there on the flop with a middle or bottom pair?
      What he would try to achieve with such 3bet? Is it for value or bluff? What hands he would then try to get value from or what better hands he would try to fold?

      Same question apply here for hero flop raise. What weaker hands give action? Well from your question I can assume you think to get action from worse pairs, but that would be quite a overplay of those hands from villain. That also make your raise overplay of your top pair. Now I don't know how villains play in 5$ dons in ipoker, but those are default assumptions.

      PS: Obviously villain won't likely have 2x or 4x often in his preflop calling range so smaller pairs would mostly be only pocket pairs.