[NL2-NL10] NL4; SH: AQs 3bet

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $3.97 (99.3 bb)
      BB: $5 (125 bb)
      UTG: $7.37 (184.3 bb)
      MP: $4.78 (119.5 bb)
      CO: $0.75 (18.8 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $4 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
      UTG raises to $0.20, MP folds, CO calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.60, CO calls $0.55 and is all-in

      Flop: ($2.41) 2 5 8 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      UTG checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($2.41) J (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1

      River: ($4.41) 4 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      UTG bets $1, Hero folds

      Results: $4.41 pot ($0.29 rake)
      Final Board: 2 5 8 J 4
      UTG showed K A and won $1.96 ($0.16 net)
      CO showed 4 4 and won $2.16 ($1.41 net)
      Hero mucked A Q and lost (-$1.80 net)

      Initial raiser's stats:
      VP/PFR/AF/Foldto3bet/WTSD/hands 29/16/4.3/0(2)/39/79

      The initial raiser is a multitabler.

      I was hesitant to Cbet the flop as one player is already AI. Should I have bet the flop? The rest is standard, I guess.
  • 8 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Preflop: Why do you 3bet here? What's your plan if you get 4bet?

      As played
      Postflop: The flop is somewhat big already and while one guy is all-in already it ain't wrong even to Check behind. You may easily see free cards. Otherwise kind of close on the turn but it's doable, not much of implied odds needed there.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Preflop: Why do you 3bet here? What's your plan if you get 4bet?


      Against a 4bet it's an easy fold. My plan, however, is to see the initial raiser fold (at least he should very often with the fishy shortstack behind) and the shortstack fish go broke against me. Sould the initial raiser not fold and just simply call I can put him on some medium PP maybe, and most likely AQ+ which is not cool, but still a 3bet looks better than a fold.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Then why not to just Call? You have a great hand to play postflop even in multiway pot?
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      You have a great hand to play postflop even in multiway pot?


      Had it been AQo, a call wouldn't be that great, right?
      It's just that you have advised me to 3bet and not call with medium Ax so often that I am a bit confused now.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      You have a great hand to play postflop even in multiway pot?


      Had it been AQo, a call wouldn't be that great, right?
      It's just that you have advised me to 3bet and not call with medium Ax so often that I am a bit confused now.
      AQo is not for multiway pot since people overplay the hand so often and that's almost the same even with AQs but AQs has also the possibility to hit a nut-flush which will pay off hardly.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      So when is a call with AJs and AQs against a raiser superior to 3betting?

      *) If we are up against a relatively tight player who folds a lot to 3bets and no-one behind us squeezes too often, then a call would probably be much better.
      *) If the initial raiser 4bets often
      *) If the openraiser is tight and doesn't fold often to 3bets and there is a cold caller in the hand

      Do these scenarios make sense? Are there any other important situations?
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Most likely should be enough to understand the basics at first. :)
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Thanks!