[NL2-NL10] NL4; SH: JJ against fish

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP: $2.54 (63.5 bb)
      Hero (CO): $4.92 (123 bb)
      BTN: $4.41 (110.3 bb)
      SB: $4.02 (100.5 bb)
      BB: $1.44 (36 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
      MP calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, MP calls $0.16

      Flop: ($0.46) 9 K A (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $0.32, MP calls $0.32

      Turn: ($1.10) T (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero checks

      River: ($1.10) 9 (2 players)
      MP bets $0.55, Hero folds

      Results: $1.10 pot ($0.07 rake)
      Final Board: 9 K A T 9
      MP showed 7 6 and won $1.03 ($0.51 net)
      Hero mucked J J and lost (-$0.52 net)

      Opponent's stats:
      VP/PFR/AF/Foldtocbetflop/WTSD/hands 54/19/2.0/50(2)/25/26

      I probably should have bet the turn for value from FDs as well as for a free showdown against this particular opponent, right?
  • 8 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      From how many worse hands do you expect to get called on the flop? Do you think you can make a better hand to fold? And what kind of worse hand pays you anyways on the river whilst you just have a mid-pair and not even the 2nd best pair.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Well, our opponent does look like a fish. I can imagine getting called by FDs, 9x, maybe some gutshots even. Maybe sometimes even by a smaller PP. I can't however make a better hand fold, that's for sure. On the river the fold is ok, I guess. The question is, could I have bet the turn to get to the showdown for free, or is it over after the flop already?
    • KillerFishes
      KillerFishes
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      Joined: 11.07.2010 Posts: 2,313
      Hey man, yee he can call with fd and 9x but how many of these does he have? The problem is when you bet you will like always check and he can bluff these quite often :) I'd deffo check :) same for T unless J If t and r is blank I'd bluffcatch ;)
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Hey man, yee he can call with fd and 9x but how many of these does he have?


      What do you mean? I'd say that there is a decent probability of him having a 9, FD or a gutshot.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      Well, our opponent does look like a fish. I can imagine getting called by FDs, 9x, maybe some gutshots even. Maybe sometimes even by a smaller PP. I can't however make a better hand fold, that's for sure. On the river the fold is ok, I guess. The question is, could I have bet the turn to get to the showdown for free, or is it over after the flop already?
      On such a board I doubt so but when we Check the flop we are more inclined even to get called or even bet into us from such hands. :)
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      So if we check the flop it does not mean that we are giving up the hand? We can still call some turns, right?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Avatars91
      So if we check the flop it does not mean that we are giving up the hand? We can still call some turns, right?
      Depends again. :) How we see the opponent, if we expect to be ahead or not. There is again no default action for that. But usually when I Check in those spots then I also have a further plan which would be either to get value from worse or just not value-town myself. Especially when you can't even make him Kx to fold. :)
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Ok, thanks!