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[NL2-NL10] NL10 Shorthanded

    • nikolass2
      Joined: 24.06.2009 Posts: 44
      ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
      $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 08, 05:46:39 ET 2012
      Table Phoenix IV (Real Money)
      Seat 3 is the button
      Seat 2: Player2 ( $11.16 USD ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 21
      Seat 3: Hero ( $13.97 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2.7, Hands: 78770
      Seat 4: Player4 ( $10.14 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 11, AF: Infinity, Hands: 26
      Seat 5: Player5 ( $6.70 USD ) - VPIP: 51, PFR: 23, 3B: 15, AF: 2.0, Hands: 43
      Seat 6: Player6 ( $7.67 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 59
      Player4 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
      Player5 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
      ** Dealing down cards **
      Dealt to Hero [ 5c 3c ]
      Player6 folds
      Player2 raises [$0.30 USD]
      Hero raises [$0.93 USD]
      Player4 folds
      Player5 folds
      Player2 calls [$0.63 USD]
      ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Jd, Qd ]
      Player2 bets [$1.10 USD]
      Hero folds
      Player2 wins $1.10 USD
      Player2 wins $1.91 USD from main pot

      Is 3bet preflop appropriate in this spot? On what hand could I put the opp because of his donkbet?
  • 5 replies
    • sausage646
      Joined: 30.03.2010 Posts: 567
      First you defiantly need to see who is acting behind you - if there is really tight players, you can proceed. ( since you have really big fish in BB, don't 3bet, since you will have to play multi way pot whit junk hand)
      than you need to know his open raise in late position (ORL) stats.
      (if he is having only 14pfr - it's not profitable to raise him as a bluff)
      His fold to 3 bet stats. (If he is not folding, than again, no point of raising)
      His fold to cbet in 3 bet pots. (If he is not folding flop again, no point of raising it pre flop)

      But as you see in first step - there is big fish in blinds, so we stop there and just fold.
    • nikolass2
      Joined: 24.06.2009 Posts: 44
      Thank you for your feedback.

      But I think the fish in blinds is not that big to call raise and re-raise 3bet, don't you think it is too much action?

      For him to call my 3bet would mean to play flop out of position and doesn't 3bet from button looks strong? So if he is not a fish he could understand he can call only with the very top of his raising range?
    • sausage646
      Joined: 30.03.2010 Posts: 567
      I don't think for 51/23 guy there ever be too much action :D + 3bet (15% - could be from small sample, but probably will be on the highest side since of his vpip/pfr)

      + he is not fully stacked

      all of this indicates - he is lose agro fish -

      IMO: he will call you whit some suited connectors, AJ+, Axs 77+ QJs T9o,s or what so ever.. his range wil be wide.

      He just love to play, I am 90% he doesn't even know what's "range" is, he doesn't play or think like you, he like cards = he play.

      [ I have friends which I am playing at some days live poker, and it's so funny when they say oh I like this hand it always hit :D or, this is my favorite hand..
      just.. understand - almost all the fish have different thinking about the game, not % but just because they like how the "cards" look or according of they experience, example= "I always lose whit Aces or AK is bad hand I never hit " and so on.. ]
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by

      UTG ($7.67)
      CO ($11.16)
      Hero (BTN) ($13.97)
      SB ($10.14)
      BB ($6.70)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN 5:club: 3:club:
      1 fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.93, 2 folds, CO calls $0.63

      Flop: 9:club: J:diamond: Q:diamond: ($2.01, 2 players)
      CO bets $1.10, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $3.11

      CO wins $3.01 (net +$0.98)

      Hero lost $0.93
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello nikolass2,

      Why do you 3bet in first place? You don't even know the opponent, you don't know if he folds to 3bet, you don't know how he reacts postflop. So standard fold preflop. :) Neither you didn't give me any reason to think that you will play the hand profitable.

      I don't really care what he is donking with, we can't really continue.

      Best Regards.