[NL2-NL10] NL4 AKo

    • mayapnd
      mayapnd
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      Joined: 15.07.2010 Posts: 131
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      BTN: $5.14 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 3.7, Hands: 204
      Hero (SB): $8.85 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 4.8, Hands: 48408
      BB: $0.96 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: NaN, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
      UTG: $5.83 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 2, 3B: 5, AF: 0.4, Hands: 56
      MP: $0.25 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 33, 3B: 31, AF: Infinity, Hands: 46
      CO: $5.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 3.7, Hands: 204

      Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is SB with A :spade: K :diamond:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.36, BB calls $0.32, CO calls $0.24

      Flop: ($1.08) K :club: J :club: 3 :diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.60 all in, CO raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $8.49, CO calls $3.04 all in

      Turn: ($10.96) 5 :diamond: (3 players - 2 are all in)

      River: ($10.96) 5 :spade: (3 players - 2 are all in)

      On the flop i cbet big because of the flush/straightdraw, and it puts the shortstack AI. CO minraises and I tought he might do this with some hands that i beat (QQ,KQ), and he might bluff aswell or maybe have some A high FDs like A:club: Q:club: /T:club: , so i decide to shove instead of calling, because i didn't want to give him any freecard. Am I overplaying my TPTK here?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello mayapnd,

      Preflop: Against 3xBB I'd raise it bigger $0,48.
      Postflop: Otherwise depends really on the opponent we are against. What about his WTSD/W$SD? What about fold to 3bet? Could he be overplaying any kind of TP here? I doubt that he would raise here without having a made hand. If he had a draw then most likely he would just Call.

      But if we expect him also to even have worse Kx hands which playing this way:

      Board: K:club: J:club: 3:diamond:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    49.90%  49.56%   0.34% { JJ, 33, KQs, AcQc, AcTc, QcTc, KQo }
      UTG+1  50.10%  49.76%   0.34% { AsKd }

      Then we can consider even playing for the stack.

      Best Regards.
    • mayapnd
      mayapnd
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      Joined: 15.07.2010 Posts: 131
      Preflop: Against 3xBB I'd raise it bigger $0,48.
      Is it really needed to make it 4x against a 3xBB raise preflop? I took my 3betsizing from NL2 (where i would 3bet 3x the original raise - from 0,06 to 0,18 and 0,08 to 0,24).

      What about his WTSD/W$SD? What about fold to 3bet? Could he be overplaying any kind of TP here?
      His WTSD is 23 and 51% W$SD, I didn'ttake that into account, but i did see and forgot to post that his fold to 3bet is 50% over 32 hands, so there are lots of Kx in his range.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Is it really needed to make it 4x against a 3xBB raise preflop? I took my 3betsizing from NL2 (where i would 3bet 3x the original raise - from 0,06 to 0,18 and 0,08 to 0,24).

      Well, if you don't want to then don't do it. :) I am just giving you my advice what I would do there.
    • mayapnd
      mayapnd
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      Joined: 15.07.2010 Posts: 131
      Well, if you don't want to then don't do it. I am just giving you my advice what I would do there.
      It wasn't meant to 'sound' like that. What I really wanted to say is, this 4x 3bet you recomend me to use only in this spot or everytime? Is there any reasoning for that, or that's just your standard 3bet? Sorry if you felt I was being mean or something :f_frown: .
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by mayapnd
      Well, if you don't want to then don't do it. I am just giving you my advice what I would do there.
      It wasn't meant to 'sound' like that. What I really wanted to say is, this 4x 3bet you recomend me to use only in this spot or everytime? Is there any reasoning for that, or that's just your standard 3bet? Sorry if you felt I was being mean or something :f_frown: .
      Nah, you didn't offend me but I am just saying that I don't point out those 3bet values or anything similar just randomly. They are usually proven with some theorems to be more profitable to do it bigger. For example you gain more value from weaker hands, you don't give good odds for set mining which you are doing with small 3bet vs 2x/3xBB raises.