[NL20-NL50] AQ 3bet/call

    • obrutmaster
      obrutmaster
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.08.2010 Posts: 435
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
      SB ($21.60)
      Hero ($27.85)
      UTG ($10.66)
      CO ($24.46)
      BTN ($21.40)

      Dealt to Hero Q:club: A:diamond:

      UTG calls $0.20, fold, BTN raises to $1, fold, Hero raises to $3.30, fold, BTN raises to $21.40 (AI), Hero calls $18.10

      FLOP ($43.10) 2:spade: K:spade: 8:spade:

      TURN ($43.10) 2:spade: K:spade: 8:spade: 7:diamond:

      RIVER ($43.10) 2:spade: K:spade: 8:spade: 7:diamond: 4:heart:

      BTN shows Q:spade: K:club:
      (Pre 26%, Flop 92.5%, Turn 95.5%)

      Hero shows Q:club: A:diamond:
      (Pre 74%, Flop 7.5%, Turn 4.5%)

      BTN wins $40.95

      Limper Stats: 53/0/22/56/20 [VPIP/PFR/AGF/WTSD/Hands]
      Villain STATS: BTN PFR 38%
      Fold 3bet - 60% from btn vs blinds
      4bet 27% (15 situations) from btn vs blinds
      Hands: 1500
      Hero Image and Stats: I 3bet-ed him previous hand.
      3bet: 15% (tried to make a loose image and stack of with top 4% range) 23/20 [VPIP/PFR]

      If i make some calculations and seethat he is 4bet 27% of his range that means arround 10.2% of total hands i tought that this should be a good call.
      But i think this hand could be played somehow different any suggestions please?
  • 3 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      I think call there is fine. He would likely 4-bet small with AK instead of shoving and don´t see reason why he should shove there QQ-AA. So yore either flipping against some medium pp-s or are ahead rest of his bluffshoving range

      Best regards,
    • x3mwisp
      x3mwisp
      Black
      Joined: 31.03.2009 Posts: 3,604
      I actually disaggree completely with the way the hand was played. First of all preflop i believe you sould totally call and see a flop with AQ with the fish in the hand. Hit A,Q,2p,trips,straight and donk the flop. That probably would be more +ev than the actual possible flip or negative ev with AQ and collecting the dead money (which probly is close to b/e). If you do 3bet than it is obviously for value and you should be shipping it esp to his high 4b freq.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by x3mwisp
      I actually disaggree completely with the way the hand was played. First of all preflop i believe you sould totally call and see a flop with AQ with the fish in the hand. Hit A,Q,2p,trips,straight and donk the flop. That probably would be more +ev than the actual possible flip or negative ev with AQ and collecting the dead money (which probly is close to b/e). If you do 3bet than it is obviously for value and you should be shipping it esp to his high 4b freq.
      If your 3-betting range hasn´t AQ, then what hands actually you would 3-bet there for value?. Imo TT+, AK is too small range against player who can easily 4-bet/fold or get all-in with worse hands