[NL2-NL10] QQ nl10

    • vinipyx77
      vinipyx77
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.08.2007 Posts: 577
      UTG1 - vpip/pfr/wstd/w$td/hands - 14/13/30/33/206 agg 5.7 raise EP 11% fold to 3 bet 0%(4), call open 3%, donk bet 50%(2)

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $10.00
      BB:
      $9.25
      UTG1:
      $4.71
      UTG2 (Hero):
      $10.10
      MP1:
      $7.19
      MP2:
      $10.45
      MP3:
      $10.38
      CO:
      $3.85
      BU:
      $10.35


      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with Q, Q.
      UTG1 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, 7 folds, UTG1 calls $0.80.

      Flop: ($2.55) 7, 6, J (2 players)
      UTG1 bets $1.21, Hero raises to $8.90(All-In), UTG1 calls $2.30(All-In).

      Turn: ($14.96) 6 (2 players)

      River: ($14.96) T (2 players)

      Final Pot: $14.96.
  • 6 replies
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      Hi, vinipyx77!

      Tricky spot, I'll ask Veriz for help in this one.

      I'm not so sure about 3betting QQ from UTG2. If he re-raises you back we are not happy and we are *at best* flipping with AK; if he folds we had the better hand anyway.

      (regarding stats, he's fold to 3bet is not really reliable with only 4, and not filtered by position as I understand). Considering his VPIP/PFR he's probably not a horrible preflop player so I wouldn't count on him calling a 3bet with random AJ type of hands out of position.

      Just calling his raise is not great either but I think I'd be more inclined to call, even though it will be pretty hard for us to extract anything postflop from worse hands...

      *edit: by the way, as played I'd do the same on the flop since there are so many cards we don't want to see...
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello vinipyx77,

      You raise for value preflop against his stack then it means pretty easy stack-off postflop, we ain't getting away here. Nice hand!

      Best Regards.
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello vinipyx77,

      You raise for value preflop against his stack then it means pretty easy stack-off postflop, we ain't getting away here. Nice hand!

      Best Regards.
      Cool.

      Are shortstack people really calling a 3bet out of position with AJ/KJ type of hands there? Or stacking off with TT on that flop?

      I know our value is also preflop etc., I'm just wondering :D
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      He isn't short-stack, he is mid-stack. If you go for 3bet-value preflop then you ain't getting away here. How you can avoid such spots is by flatting preflop. :)
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      Originally posted by veriz
      He isn't short-stack, he is mid-stack. If you go for 3bet-value preflop then you ain't getting away here. How you can avoid such spots is by flatting preflop. :)
      True, after the real short stacks got banned from a few sites I got into calling everyone with <100BBs a "shortstack" - which is bluntly wrong of course.

      I don't think you can avoid setups but you could at least leave him with whole range thus getting some value in some spots postflop. But nothing to be fistpumping anyway...
    • vinipyx77
      vinipyx77
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.08.2007 Posts: 577
      Thanks for the detailed response ;)