Bad plays & bad luck = disaster

    • sismis
      sismis
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      Its true that in last weeks i am involved in to many big pots when i am behind but with combination with some bad luck i start playing even worse. I dont really mind playing bad because at least my good hands are payed by opponents, but without occasional suckouts it will be hard to survive.

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    • swissmoumout
      swissmoumout
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      that looks pretty ugly...limits?
    • sismis
      sismis
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      lower and lower :)

      was trying to beat NL400 last month, but now i am playing NL100.
    • tzveti
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      expected all-in winning should be those cases, in which you went all in as a favorite right?
      If so, rly bad luck...
    • swissmoumout
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      @ tzveti: not sure if I understood correctly, but basically, it traces the graph based on each hands' equity (e.g. 100$ pot, with KK vs AA, you'll have 20$ expected winnings, since you're a 4:1 underdog) and the blue is the real winnings.
      ^That's simplified btw. it also counts dead money etc...
    • tzveti
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      Yeah, that just what I meant.
      So it does rly suck for him - but 800 hands isnt a lot, so I wish him that he has the blue line over the red in the next 800 and voila!:D
    • swissmoumout
      swissmoumout
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      Originally posted by tzveti
      Yeah, that just what I meant.
      So it does rly suck for him - but 800 hands isnt a lot, so I wish him that he has the blue line over the red in the next 800 and voila!:D
      It's 800 all-ins, so it's more like 100k hands total.
    • tzveti
      tzveti
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      zomg!
      didnt rly realise he filtered only the all ins...hmm thats bad, rly bad
    • undercover82
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      It is pretty standard actually for this amount of hands , 9 buyins down.
      I filtered my stats as well and im up 6 buyins over 1000+ preflop all ins this year.
      If we suppose for simplicity ~~ that every all in is worth 200 BB , you just lost 4-5 more all-ins than you should over 800 all-ins.
    • megaB
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      don't know if this will comfort you or not, actually maybe it won't because it means it can continue :D

      here s the allin luck graph from a french pro:

      http://www.clubpoker.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52355&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
    • sismis
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      I suck. lost another stack in 7 hands ;/

      Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
      Gamecode: 932972787 - 2008-04-12 13:37:09
      $0.50 SB / $1.50 BB - 5 handed

      Seat 1: BB ($189.19)
      Seat 3: MP3 ($173.36)
      Seat 6: CO ($20) (preflop stats 70/30)
      Seat 8: [color=#0000ff]Hero[/color]($97.50)(DEALER)
      Seat 10: SB ($139.80)

      Dealt to CO: :club: 10 :diamond: K
      Dealt to Hero: :heart: K :heart: A

      Preflop:
      SB posts SB, BB posts BB,CO posts BB
      [color=#7d7d7d]MP3 folds[/color], CO raises $1, Hero raises $7, [color=#7d7d7d]2 folds[/color], CO calls $5

      Flop(Pot: $16.00):
      :diamond: 10 :spade: 7 :heart: 6
      CO bets $6, Hero raises $13, CO raises All-in($6.50)

      Turn(Pot: $41.50):
      :diamond: 10 :spade: 7 :heart: 6,:spade: 2


      River(Pot: 41.50):
      :diamond: 10 :spade: 7 :heart: 6,:spade: 2,:spade: 6


      Total Pot: 41.50

      Results:
      CO wins $38.95
      Hero wins $0.50


      Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
      Gamecode: 932976362 - 2008-04-12 13:39:53
      $0.50 SB / $1 BB - 6 handed

      Seat 1: MP3 ($181.19)
      Seat 3: CO ($171.86)
      Seat 5: BU ($98.50)(DEALER)
      Seat 6: SB ($46.70)
      Seat 8: [color=#0000ff]Hero[/color]($79.50)
      Seat 10: MP2 ($139.30)

      Dealt to SB: :spade: 9 :club: J
      Dealt to Hero: :diamond: 2 :club: A

      Preflop:
      SB posts SB, Hero posts BB
      [color=#7d7d7d]4 folds[/color], SB calls $0.50, Hero raises $4, SB calls $4

      Flop(Pot: $10.00):
      :diamond: K :diamond: Q :club: 3
      SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7

      Turn(Pot: $24.00):
      :diamond: K :diamond: Q :club: 3,:diamond: 9
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River(Pot: $24.00):
      :diamond: K :diamond: Q :club: 3,:diamond: 9,:heart: 6
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Total Pot: $24.00

      Results:
      SB wins $22.80



      Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
      Gamecode: 932978003 - 2008-04-12 13:41:09
      $0.50 SB / $1 BB - 6 handed

      Seat 1: BB ($185.74)
      Seat 3: MP2 ($171.86)
      Seat 5: MP3 ($98.50)
      Seat 6: CO ($57.50)
      Seat 8: [color=#0000ff]Hero[/color]($63.50)(DEALER)
      Seat 10: SB ($138.30)

      Dealt to MP3: :diamond: Q :heart: A
      Dealt to Hero: :diamond: 3 :diamond: 6

      Preflop:
      SB posts SB, BB posts BB
      [color=#7d7d7d]MP2 folds[/color], MP3 raises $4, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

      Flop(Pot: $20.00):
      :heart: Q :club: 5 :heart: 3
      SB checks, BB checks, MP3 bets $10, [color=#7d7d7d]CO folds[/color], Hero calls $10, [color=#7d7d7d]2 folds[/color]

      Turn(Pot: $40.00):
      :heart: Q :club: 5 :heart: 3,:heart: 6
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $25, MP3 raises $50, Hero raises All-in($24.50)

      River(Pot: $139.50):
      :heart: Q :club: 5 :heart: 3,:heart: 6,:heart: 2


      Total Pot: 139.50

      Results:
      MP3 wins $136.50
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      lols@36s hand O.O?
    • swissmoumout
      swissmoumout
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      why don't you reload?
    • sismis
      sismis
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      so i can go all-in with 36 without worries :)
    • sismis
      sismis
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      i won allin today after long time. im so happy :D


      Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
      Gamecode: 933844742 - 2008-04-12 23:54:30
      $0.50 SB / $1 BB - 5 handed

      Seat 1: [color=#0000ff]Hero[/color]($105.05)
      Seat 3: BB ($127.40)
      Seat 5: MP3 ($335.84)
      Seat 6: CO ($236.90)
      Seat 10: BU ($129.90)(DEALER)

      Dealt to Hero: :spade: A :spade: 3
      Dealt to BU: :diamond: 6 :diamond: A

      Preflop:
      Hero posts SB, BB posts BB
      [color=#7d7d7d]2 folds[/color], BU raises $3.50, Hero calls $3, [color=#7d7d7d]BB folds[/color]

      Flop(Pot: $8.00):
      :club: 3 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 3
      Hero bets $5, BU raises $15, Hero raises $30, BU raises $111.40, Hero raises All-in($66.55)

      Turn(Pot: $235.95):
      :club: 3 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 3,:diamond: K


      River(Pot: 235.95):
      :club: 3 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 3,:diamond: K,:heart: A


      Total Pot: 235.95

      Results:
      Hero wins $208.10
      BU wins $24.85
    • SonicXT
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      Dodged a bullet on that river though, makes it even sweeter ;)
    • PalcekSmuk
      PalcekSmuk
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      Sismis you really suck. I think the only card game for you is solitaire.
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
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      Joined: 10.09.2007 Posts: 14,387
      Originally posted by PalcekSmuk
      Sismis you really suck. I think the only card game for you is solitaire.
      ^^

      HU for rollz on MSN solitaire showdown?
    • sismis
      sismis
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      my msn solitaire doesnt run anymore and i cant update messenger without vista :)
    • matkov
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      Joined: 15.11.2007 Posts: 202
      please forgive me to steal this topic from you, but I just don't want to start a new thread :)

      Can u guys explain to me what my graphs says?



      What does this graph tell you? Is it, that I'm losing too much money bluffing (cbeting) my way before river and general bad postflop play? If I got this right, the showdown winnings and the sklanskly buch says I'm running quite good at showdowns. So the problem is in my postflop play?

      Thanks, and sorry for the offtopic
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