[NL2-NL10] NL 5, SH, A8s, nut flush vs. paired flop

    • Anger86
      Anger86
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2008 Posts: 511
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $13.24
      CO:
      $5.21
      BU:
      $4.93
      SB:
      $5.00
      BB (Hero):
      $5.04


      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 8.
      MP3 calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($0.12) 9, 5, J (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.20, MP3 calls $0.20.

      Turn: ($0.52) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.55, MP3 folds.

      River: ($1.07) J (1 players)
      Hero bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $2.32.

      Villain's stats:
      Hands: 39
      VPIP/PFR: 38/3
      Limp: 32%
      AF: 1.6

      Could over-bet F and T bigger.
      As played on the R, I'm thinking about shove, now. Villain can have a lot of X :spade: X :spade: , Jx hands, also 99 and 55.
      That is 6 combos, that crush me (sets = 3 + 3). I assumed he would raise JJ and QQ preflop. Maybe :D .
      I beat all the other hands. AJ, KJ, QJ, oher Jacks :) - these hands would rather bet/raise earlier in the hand (ex. JQ culd raise Turn)
      6s7s, 6s8s, Ts8s, KsTs, KsQs, QsTs - these hands also could be raising, but villain is kind of passive,
      so it's kind of a call.




      I don't think I can find fold here.
  • 4 replies
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
      Super Moderator
      Super Moderator
      Joined: 02.09.2010 Posts: 8,908
      Originally posted by Anger86
      Turn: ($0.52) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.55, MP3 folds.

      River: ($1.07) J (1 players)
      Hero bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      As played on the R, I'm thinking about shove, now. Villain can have a lot of X :spade: X :spade: , Jx hands, also 99 and 55.
      That is 6 combos, that crush me (sets = 3 + 3). I assumed he would raise JJ and QQ preflop. Maybe :D .
      I beat all the other hands. AJ, KJ, QJ, oher Jacks :) - these hands would rather bet/raise earlier in the hand (ex. JQ culd raise Turn)
      6s7s, 6s8s, Ts8s, KsTs, KsQs, QsTs - these hands also could be raising, but villain is kind of passive,
      so it's kind of a call.
      I don't think I can find fold here.
      According to this, villain folded on the turn -- what am I missing???
      Did the hand converter screw up?
      I'll assume MP3 actually called...

      Since you are OOP, I would bet smaller and be happy with a call or fold.
      Depending on villain's past behaviour, I might check/call, but that would be very rare move for me.
      If his is normally v passive, I might fold to a large River 3Bet, but I would hate it.


      I notice you overbet each street. Are you trying to get villain to fold?
      If you want worse hands to call, you need to give them a chance to do so.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Anger86,

      I wouldn't really start predicting here since I see the villain folding on the turn. :) So obviously Bet/Bet/Bet line here.

      Best Regards.
    • Anger86
      Anger86
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2008 Posts: 511
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello Anger86,

      I wouldn't really start predicting here since I see the villain folding on the turn. :) So obviously Bet/Bet/Bet line here.

      Best Regards.
      I think PS.com converter is doing something. What actually happened on the River was,
      that I bet 1.25 into 1.87 and Villain 3bets to 2.50. And I call.

      See: Kind of bet and call. Raise = 2.50 from Villain.


      River: ($1.07) J (1 players)
      Hero bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, Hero gets uncalled bet back.


      Edit: When Villain 3bets I have 2.99 $ and I'm covered.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Most likely I wouldn't shove but rather just Call and be happy if we are even ahead. There are some combos of weaker flushes in his range therefore calling is still fine. Hard to get away vs a min-raise.