Playing against beginners

    • ilovemagic
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      please tell me how to approach playing against beginer poker players (i have some friends over who want to play poker, who dont play very often, but they dont know i play everyday, know all the terminoligy, odds, etc) because I want them to enjoy themselves, and we arent playin for much $$ anyways, so i dont want to snap on them for sucking out on the river when they hit their one outer.

      I'm thinking just dont even play to win, just enjoy thier company and play like a fish? its seriously games for just 2 or 3 bucks so its not like i should care anyways (even tho i do because im reall REALLY competitive)
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    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Best way to play poker against beginners is to play pretty simple bet big with big hands and dont try anything fancy with small hands, see some flops with hands that play well post flop like suited connectors. Don't try to bluff people off their hands new players probably wont pick up on you only playing great cards just think you are a luckbox :)

      Of course if you're just playing for pennies, want to just have fun, don't care too much about winning then just play however you feel and enjoy yourself thats the most important part

      Carl
    • ilovemagic
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      thx carl! I won the game anyways lol but i did it with class, didnt lose my mind when my girlfriend hit her 4 outer when i had her all in. I didnt cry when she called my all in bluff with middle pair for 1/3 of her chips, (i ended up winning that hand cuz i got lucky anyways), and i didnt belittle anyone for making horrible calls when they were in pots against each other. Overall I didnt make myself look like an asshole. cuz theres nothing people hate more then a know it all who takes their money and does it while berating them.

      I think havin the competitive spirit is important, but honing all the energy on positive things and not getting all wrapped up on the misfortunes is what will keep these nights light and fun in the long run.


      Best hand of the night tho was when my buddy contemplated for a good 2 minutes whether or not to call all of his chips off on an inside str8 draw when we were on 3rd level of blinds ...LOL and he ended up calling....and obviously lost lol!! but the best part for me was i wanted to so bad tell him what his odds were and how bad of a call it was in the long run, but i didnt, which makes me happy, because he was having fun and thats all that matterd. :)
    • purplefizz
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      glad to hear you guys had fun! nobody likes a know-it-all, super true.

      anyway, i think it's time you send them some TAF links to this site :D
    • ilovemagic
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      yeah for sure eh? So far the only one i've been able to get on this site is my dad, and he wont do any of the dirty footwork like watching coaching or posting hands. he just keeps depositing and losing it all in minutes, sometimes days, but he never lasts long. He keeps saying he thinks all that schoolwork is boring....insanity..it cant be defined as anything else lol...i dont think its boring when i put some of the tools ive learned here at PS to work at the tables and it pays off...its pretty amazing feeling actually, knowing this game is in fact a skill game, and not mostly luck! the ones who practise the most definately seem to be the most lucky , that is for sure! But I will try to get more friends involved here, but most of them just laugh at me and tell me im crazy lol..we will see whos crazy a few years from now..anyways. thanks for the post!
    • gadget51
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      Originally posted by purplefizz
      glad to hear you guys had fun! nobody likes a know-it-all, super true.

      anyway, i think it's time you send them some TAF links to this site :D
      +1 if you like monies, if you don't then meh, that's cool to.

      Mal.
    • ilovemagic
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      its not me you have to convince lol..i clearly like monies. its my friends lol
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      get yourself a sick looking graph that will convince them ;)
    • purplefizz
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      or just win your home game a couple of times :s_cool:
    • Wriggers
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      Originally posted by ilovemagic
      yeah for sure eh? So far the only one i've been able to get on this site is my dad, and he wont do any of the dirty footwork like watching coaching or posting hands. he just keeps depositing and losing it all in minutes, sometimes days, but he never lasts long. He keeps saying he thinks all that schoolwork is boring....insanity..it cant be defined as anything else lol...i dont think its boring when i put some of the tools ive learned here at PS to work at the tables and it pays off...its pretty amazing feeling actually, knowing this game is in fact a skill game, and not mostly luck! the ones who practise the most definately seem to be the most lucky , that is for sure! But I will try to get more friends involved here, but most of them just laugh at me and tell me im crazy lol..we will see whos crazy a few years from now..anyways. thanks for the post!
      :heart: :heart: So much love for this post :D
    • ilovemagic
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      we dont play for high stakes at home, but a nice looking graph might erase a few of their negative, skeptical thoughts for sure. Some of them are just going other places in life and I understand that. If they want to make a living working min. wage jobs, or going to school to become a slave to society doing some job they think they'll like, and soon regret, so be it. All that matters is we found something we enjoy.
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Originally posted by ilovemagic
      the ones who practise the most definately seem to be the most lucky
      :heart: So true, you have a great attitude to the game, i think you'll do alright :)
    • mancikaa
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      And i tell you whats even more sad: you go to play live games and people play the same in casinos like at home games. But also on a 500 euro buy in tournament. U have to get used to it, that whatever how good you try it, people wont change their game because they dont even know they have too, they just want to have fun, they want to chase a flush, or suck out...u can read about it in my blog, it effects me also kinda muh :f_cry:
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Originally posted by mancikaa
      And i tell you whats even more sad: you go to play live games and people play the same in casinos like at home games. But also on a 500 euro buy in tournament. U have to get used to it, that whatever how good you try it, people wont change their game because they dont even know they have too, they just want to have fun, they want to chase a flush, or suck out...u can read about it in my blog, it effects me also kinda muh :f_cry:

      Surely this can only be good? Think of the HUGE edge you will have over a field like this they can suck out sure, but if you keep playing the same games every week you are gonna have a huge edge in the long run :)
    • ilovemagic
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      Originally posted by ExternalUseOnly
      Originally posted by mancikaa
      And i tell you whats even more sad: you go to play live games and people play the same in casinos like at home games. But also on a 500 euro buy in tournament. U have to get used to it, that whatever how good you try it, people wont change their game because they dont even know they have too, they just want to have fun, they want to chase a flush, or suck out...u can read about it in my blog, it effects me also kinda muh :f_cry:

      Surely this can only be good? Think of the HUGE edge you will have over a field like this they can suck out sure, but if you keep playing the same games every week you are gonna have a huge edge in the long run :)

      DAMNNN right son :) The reason people might not have a great poker experience at the casino is probably because they do 1 of 2 things (possibly more):

      A) They go in expecting too much, and set themselves up for immediate failure right there.
      B) They go into the casino with too few of a bankroll and end up getting sucked out by a fish and have no money left to play with.

      I'm actually saving up a little bit at a time to take a crack at the live games at the casino, if people play the way there that they do in my home games, then surely I will enjoy myself at the 1/2 CG :) But I'm not just gonna save up one buy in and hope to get lucky..it's gonna mean saving up the recommended amount to play live and go from there. Until then I can keep learning and improving my mental game, online, while all the fishies who just want entertainment stay at the casino and not post hands, not help others at forums, not do studying of their own personal play and the tendencies of others, not watch coaching sessions and read strategy articles. But they had better hope I'm dead by the time I save up enough, because I will be coming in guns a blazing (not literally. I don't plan on killing anyone :P ).

      I do know 1 thing I really have to work on when I'm playing live though, is to just STFU when I have a monster, because I always talk and and loosy goosey and cheerfull, but when I have nothing and I'm trying to bluff, I get right quiet. Something a seasoned live player would have no problem exploiting all day. So for now I'm just gonna work on not talking too much whenever I'm involved in a hand. For now. Cause I do like to talk. It's evident in all thesse long posts.

      I just can't stress enough how much I love this game. I'm glad we, the people here at PS have a great passion for poker and are always looking for the next way to improve our game !

      Keep posting E1!