How fish grow teeth

    • MoneyDearest
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      Hello everyone!

      My name's Money, and I'm a fish :f_biggrin: ! However, that's all about to change, with the good people and infinite wisdom here at pokerstrategy! My idea for this blog is to log the adventures of someone who just starts out in poker, from :f_confused: to :f_cool: to :s_grin: to :s_cool: ! I'm going to try to identify what I think is improving about my game as I'm going along, to make a little "Beginner's Guide" from my point of vew. Of course, I'll also be posting results graphs, hands, and all that good stuff!

      I'd better introduce myself! (TLDR section :P !)

      My RL name is John, and I just finished a PhD in physics in Barcelona. I worked pretty hard especially for the last year or so, so the relief of actually having a few hours where I could do what I wanted afterwards was amazing :D ! I had played a few hands of poker before, and signed up here in last year sometime. Whenever I started to read/play poker, I got really into it, but always ended up being too busy after a week or so, and so dropped it again! I graduated in December, and now how been getting back into it again, but I think this time I'm hooked :D !

      My other hobbies include Starcraft II (I play lower platinum, but with no practice :P !). I've heard a good few times that there's a link between these two, with SCII pros becoming poker pros, and even visa-versa! I think this is because it's all about making "correct decisions", quickly, and under pressure, and above all, doing so in response to what your opponent is doing. It's about being able to develop good strategies, while being quickly able to adapt them to your opponents style of play. Also, being one step ahead, and predicting/controlling your opponents actions. From what I've seen, there's a lot of that to poker too!

      Another thing that I think draws me to poker, is that I really love trying to understand why people think what they think. In fact, I almost quit my first year of physics in university to do psychology... but didn't :D ! I'm glad I didn't, but I'm still really fascinated by what motivates people's actions.

      Apart from that, I'm really drawn to poker as an awesome metaphor for life. It's random. You can't choose your starting position, and you can't choose the actions of those around you. But if you consistently make correct decisions, you can beat the game :f_cool: ! Also, you have to learn to accept that good things and bad things come, but if you play well, you will come out winning! What does playing well mean? Well, have a good strategy, try to see things from other people's points of view, and respect them. Even the fish have two-pair sometimes :f_biggrin: ! It's all about +EV baby! :f_cool:


      Now, down to business!! (That's the MSS NL4/5 shipping business btw ;) !)

      The first graph I posted here looked something like this :f_o:





      I was down $10 after 700 hands...

      After the dear members here at PS correctly called me out for being a fish :f_love: , I realised I had to take stock of me game. I think my biggest weakness was not respecting raises from fishes on the turn, and always expecting them to be bluffing. Also, I NEVER saw draws coming lol, and thought top pair was unbeatable! If I'm honest, I'd have to admit to reading only the starting hand chart carefully, and glossing through the post-flop play.

      So, I went back and re-read all the material, and steadied my game, and played pretty break even for a few hundred hands. Then, I started posting some hands in the evaluation forums, and after another few hundred hands, I just "got the feel for it", for how to fold when behind, and extract value when I was ahead.

      Now, I'm happy to report that since things have been looking more like this:





      Now, there's two ways of looking at this. The first is that I'm -4bb/100 :f_biggrin: ! On the other hand, my winrate for the last three sessions has been 24, 36, and 44 bb/100 :f_cool: !

      The truth is probably somewhere in between! I've definitely had variance of my side of the last while, but I've definitely improved my game also, so I'm looking forward to where it takes me to for 10000 hands :D !

      Stay tuned to see how I run...

      Lot's of :f_love: to the community for their help so far,

      Cheers,

      Money.
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    • ThatGuyMatt
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      I like the title :D

      Best of luck!
    • MoneyDearest
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      Thanks! :f_biggrin:
    • hooley01
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      you're moving in the right direction, looks similar to how my graph started:


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      How come you're playing NL4/5? did you skip out NL2?
    • MoneyDearest
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      Yup, that's the kind of come back I'm looking for alright :D !

      Unfortunately, I'm just after a session that started great, but finsihed terribly!! :s_frown:

      I think the good start completely shook my discipline or something...

      I'll shake it off :p!

      I'm playing MSS, so my buy in for NL4/5/6 is only 2/2.5/3, so $50 more or less covers 25 buy-in's.



    • MoneyDearest
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      Poker is the best game in the world :D !

      Right at the end of my second last session, I played the two most enjoyable hands in my 2500 HH!!

      In the first, I was stealing with A2s, and get two callers... Then I flop the nut flush :f_cool: !

      What's more, I think I did a decent job of slowplaying enough to get as many people in as possible, while still ensuring I can get all in on the river!


      $0.03/$0.06 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

      MP1: $6.53 (108.8 bb)
      MP2: $7.07 (117.8 bb)
      MP3: $6.20 (103.3 bb)
      Hero (CO): $2.73 (45.5 bb)
      BTN: $2 (33.3 bb)
      SB: $6 (100 bb)
      BB: $7.66 (127.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:heart: 2:heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, BTN calls $0.18, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.72) J:heart: 4:heart: T:heart: (4 players)
      SB bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, BTN folds

      Turn: ($2.52) 5:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.97, SB calls $0.97, BB calls $0.97

      River: ($5.43) J:spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.98 and is all-in, SB calls $0.98, BB folds

      Results: $7.39 pot ($0.43 rake)
      Final Board: J:heart: 4:heart: T:heart: 5:heart: J:spade:
      Hero showed A:heart: 2:heart: and won $6.96 ($4.23 net)
      SB showed 8:heart: 7:heart: and lost (-$2.73 net)
      BB mucked and lost (-$1.75 net)


      Then... it's the rockets :D ! But wait, I flop a set. BUT WAIT, then I turn Quads :f_cool: ! And I get it all in against a set of 9's. Slow playing *just* a bit, but making sure I can get it all in on the river.



      $0.03/$0.06 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players


      CO: $6.97 (116.2 bb)
      BTN: $7.04 (117.3 bb)
      SB: $6.14 (102.3 bb)
      Hero (BB): $6.96 (116 bb)
      UTG+1: $2 (33.3 bb)
      UTG+2: $6 (100 bb)
      MP1: $13.65 (227.5 bb)
      MP2: $2.11 (35.2 bb)
      MP3: $5.88 (98 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:heart: A:spade:
      6 folds, BTN raises to $0.18, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.32

      Flop: ($1.03) A:diamond: 3:spade: 9:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

      Turn: ($2.23) A:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.67, BTN calls $1.67

      River: ($5.57) 6:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.19, BTN calls $4.19

      Results: $13.95 pot ($0.82 rake)
      Final Board: A:diamond: 3:spade: 9:spade: A:club: 6:diamond:
      BTN showed 9:diamond: 9:heart: and lost (-$6.96 net)
      Hero showed A:heart: A:spade: and won $13.13 ($6.17 net)


      I wouldn't say I played like a genius, and I definitely think both my opponents should have folded the turns, but hey, I'm happy :D !

      So, that gave me this session:





      Then just tonight, I had a short, but good, solid run :) :





      which brings me too...

      *drum-roll*

      ...





      and more respectable stats:



      ... I'm pretty sure I'm too results orientated... I'm working on that! :P

      Thanks for listening :f_grin: !

      Any comments, let me know!

      Cheers,

      Money.
    • MoneyDearest
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      C game + tilt + varience = :facepalm:

    • MoneyDearest
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      Okay, I still suck at poker, but moments like this give me hope that I may one day beat the microfish :D


      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

      UTG+1: $3.94 (98.5 bb)
      UTG+2: $3.94 (98.5 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $2.06 (51.5 bb)
      MP2: $2.80 (70 bb)
      MP3: $4.81 (120.2 bb)
      CO: $4.94 (123.5 bb)
      BTN: $3.94 (98.5 bb)
      SB: $3.62 (90.5 bb)
      BB: $4.39 (109.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K:diamond: K:club:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 3 folds, BTN raises to $0.36, SB calls $0.34, BB folds, Hero raises to $2.06 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $1.70

      Flop: ($4.52) T:diamond: 9:heart: 4:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($4.52) 3:diamond: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($4.52) T:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Results: $4.52 pot ($0.30 rake)
      Final Board: T:diamond: 9:heart: 4:heart: 3:diamond: T:heart:
      Hero showed K:diamond: K:club: and won $4.22 ($2.16 net)
      SB showed 8:spade: 8:diamond: and lost (-$2.06 net)
    • MoneyDearest
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      Also, I think hand like these are pretty funny!

      SB: $3.05 (76.3 bb)
      BB: $1.89 (47.3 bb)
      UTG: $3.62 (90.5 bb)
      MP: $2.31 (57.8 bb)
      CO: $3.72 (93 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $1.94 (48.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4:diamond: 9:diamond:
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.04, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks

      Flop: ($0.12) T:heart: 5:diamond: T:spade: (3 players)
      SB bets $0.04, BB folds, MP calls $0.04

      Turn: ($0.20) 6:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, MP bets $0.04, SB raises to $0.10, MP calls $0.06

      River: ($0.40) 8:club: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.40, MP raises to $2.13 and is all-in, SB calls $1.73
      Results: $4.66 pot ($0.31 rake)
      Final Board: T:heart: 5:diamond: T:spade: 6:heart: 8:club:
      SB showed T:club: 6:club: and won $4.35 ($2.04 net)
      MP showed T:diamond: 5:spade: and lost (-$2.31 net)
    • MoneyDearest
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      Okay, I've decided that what happened on 888 was a bad dream that I learned a lot of lessons from, and "bought" a lot of strategy points :D ! That bad dream is now over, just like my trial of HM 2 (on to PT3) ;) !

      Feeling good this week, as I'm just after a good session, almost silver status, and I won 40 bucks due to an epic combination of my luck and Gerv's skill! I guessed the amount won in a coaching session for 5% of a freeroll profit, and he placed third for $795 :D !

      Good session today, less monkey-ing, less c-betting on connected boards, more folding of ATo from middle position.



      iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3


      As a nice end to the session, I won a (questionsable) coin flip, going all-in prelop with AKo. Flop flopped his way, turn turned mine :s_cool: ! To me honest, I'm not sure if I did this because of knowledge on the player, or because I'm still thinking the players on the micros will go all-in with much less. Anyone any thoughts on this?

      UTG: $0.97
      UTG+1: $4.93
      MP: $3.01
      MP+1: $5.19
      LP: $5.03
      Hero (CO): $2.30
      BTN: $4.00
      SB: $4.02
      BB: $1.00

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has A:club: K:diamond:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.12, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $2.30, UTG+1 calls $1.30

      Flop: ($4.66, 2 players) A:heart: K:spade: Q:heart:

      Turn: ($4.66, 2 players) A:diamond:

      River: ($4.66, 2 players) 5:spade:

      UTG+1 shows Q:spade: Q:diamond: (Full House, Queens full of Aces) (Pre 57%, Flop 82%, Turn 2%)
      Hero shows A:club: K:diamond: (Full House, Aces full of Kings) (Pre 43%, Flop 18%, Turn 98%)
      Hero wins $4.35
    • MoneyDearest
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      Silver dance :f_love: :f_cool:
    • MoneyDearest
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      I've just had a nice little heater, so I thought it was as good a time as any to share progress!

      Favouite hands of the last session:

      iPoker - €0.04 NL - Holdem - 7 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      SB: €9.80
      Hero (BB): €2.18
      UTG: €4.34
      UTG+1: €4.98
      MP: €3.43
      CO: €5.91
      BTN: €3.09

      SB posts SB €0.02, Hero posts BB €0.04

      Pre Flop: (€0.06) Hero has 7:spade: 7:heart:

      UTG calls €0.04, fold, fold, CO raises to €0.20, fold, fold, Hero calls €0.16, UTG calls €0.16

      Flop: (€0.62, 3 players) J:heart: 5:heart: 7:diamond:
      Hero checks, UTG bets €0.28, CO calls €0.28, Hero raises to €0.80, fold, CO raises to €5.71, Hero calls €1.18

      Turn: (€4.86, 2 players) 9:spade:

      River: (€4.86, 2 players) A:spade:

      Hero shows 7:spade: 7:heart: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 54%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
      CO shows K:diamond: J:club: (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 46%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins €4.54

      ---
      iPoker - £0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      MP+1: £0.93
      LP: £1.54
      CO: £5.52
      BTN: £2.43
      Hero (SB): £2.31
      BB: £4.00
      UTG: £5.00
      UTG+1: £1.38
      MP: £3.25

      Hero posts SB £0.02, BB posts BB £0.04

      Pre Flop: (£0.06) Hero has K:spade: Q:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to £0.12, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls £0.10, fold

      Flop: (£0.28, 2 players) K:diamond: 5:spade: K:club:
      Hero checks, UTG+1 bets £0.12, Hero raises to £0.36, UTG+1 raises to £1.26, Hero calls £0.90

      Turn: (£2.80, 2 players) K:heart:

      River: (£2.80, 2 players) 5:heart:

      Hero shows K:spade: Q:spade: (Four of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 63%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
      UTG+1 shows T:club: J:club: (Full House, Kings full of Fives) (Pre 37%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins £2.62

      ----

      Here, i wasn't too sure how best to extract value, I thought I should let him try to gain confidence or catch up a little:

      iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      Hero (MP): $2.00
      MP+1: $1.16
      LP: $0.67
      CO: $1.93
      BTN: $1.46
      SB: $4.07
      BB: $4.90
      UTG: $1.66
      UTG+1: $1.40

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has A:spade: A:diamond:

      fold, UTG+1 calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.38, 2 players) 4:heart: A:club: 8:diamond:
      UTG+1 bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.78, 2 players) 9:spade:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.58, fold

      Hero shows A:spade: A:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
      Hero wins $0.73

      ---

      And this is the hand I'm most ashamed of:

      It wouldn't be so bad, given by wide range of many fish, but I was staring at the guys stats of 10 VPIP 7 PFR when I made this call:

      iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG: $1.75
      Hero (UTG+1): $2.55
      MP: $0.98
      MP+1: $4.00
      LP: $5.54
      CO: $4.62
      BTN: $3.70
      SB: $0.96
      BB: $5.15

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has Q:diamond: A:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.52, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.36

      Flop: ($1.10, 2 players) 7:diamond: K:spade: A:diamond:
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

      Turn: ($2.70, 2 players) 7:heart:
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.23

      River: ($5.16, 2 players) 5:diamond:

      Hero mucks Q:diamond: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (Pre 25%, Flop 2%, Turn 2%)
      CO shows K:diamond: A:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 75%, Flop 98%, Turn 98%)
      CO wins $4.82

      So here we are, a little closer to my goal of beating NL4 :s_cool:



      Btw,

      Does anyone know how to extract hands from PT3 including stats?
    • MoneyDearest
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      My two favourite hands of the night:

      This one was just really fun to play (even if the pre-flop call was questionable)

      iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG+1: $1.68
      MP: $10.49
      MP+1: $1.57
      LP: $0.92
      CO: $4.00
      BTN: $0.51
      SB: $5.22
      Hero (BB): $2.26
      UTG: $11.77

      SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 5:club: 6:club:

      UTG raises to $0.16, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.34, 2 players) 3:heart: 7:club: A:club:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

      Turn: ($0.84, 2 players) 4:spade:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

      River: ($2.04, 2 players) 9:heart:
      Hero checks, UTG bets $1.28, Hero calls $1.25

      Hero shows 5:club: 6:club: (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 42%, Flop 48%, Turn 100%)
      UTG shows K:heart: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 58%, Flop 52%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins $4.24


      but this one just made my night :D

      iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      Hero (MP+1): $2.00
      LP: $4.58
      CO: $4.21
      BTN: $2.16
      SB: $0.64
      BB: $0.84
      UTG: $1.16
      UTG+1: $1.95
      MP: $2.96

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has A:club: K:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, fold, fold

      (Villian in BB just times out, so computer just auto-checks, and allows no more bets)

      Flop: ($0.10, 2 players) 5:heart: 7:diamond: 5:club:

      Turn: ($0.10, 2 players) J:heart:

      River: ($0.10, 2 players) J:club:

      Hero shows A:club: K:heart: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives) (Pre 7%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
      BB shows A:heart: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 93%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
      BB wins $0.10


      This should be shown to beginners everywhere about the danger of multitabling more than you can handle :P !

      BR: €61.68
    • MoneyDearest
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      The last 1000 hands have been kind! Also, learning how to fold has definitely helped my bankroll!