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[NL2-NL10] Nl10 Qq 31/01 ****

    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Joined: 08.06.2011 Posts: 1,682
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $3.83
      CO:
      $11.51
      BU:
      $3.98

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q:heart: , Q:club:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.30, BU calls $0.30, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($1.05) T:spade: , T:diamond: , 7:heart: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.8, CO calls $0.80, BU folds.

      Turn: ($2.65) 4:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.73 (All-In), CO calls $2.73.

      River: ($8.11) 8:spade: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $8.11
  • 11 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hey,

      Question for you:
      CO plays 17/11, so he is considered a TAG player. With what kind of worse hands would he call your all-in on the Turn?

      Let me know!
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Gerv
      Hey,

      Question for you:
      CO plays 17/11, so he is considered a TAG player. With what kind of worse hands would he call your all-in on the Turn?

      Let me know!
      Can you answer the question please? :)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      So since you didn't answered the question which is unfortunate :( I will finalize this hand by judging it.

      I think you just have to bet small because I don't think people will call with worse on your bet. Furthermore you want worse to be calling with your QQ so I think the shove is pretty bad

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Joined: 08.06.2011 Posts: 1,682
      I am really very sorry,Gerv. :f_mad: :f_mad:
      Until today, I saw the hands.

      Turn i bet all in totally because the form tell me if i want bet and the size is 1/2size i could all in.
      In fact,on the line i tend to follow the form,Do not believe that own thinking.
      It is a weakness of my.But i do not kown When i should follow the form,when i must believe myself?
      On the turn i bet 1/2 pot and call his raise?
      Or all in on the river?
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      You should think about ''What worse hands will call me if I bet X versus betting Y?''

      In this example, there is no way worse hands will call on your shove

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      Joined: 08.06.2011 Posts: 1,682
      You should think about ''What worse hands will call me if I bet X versus betting Y?''

      Thank u Gerv!
      In this example, there is no way worse hands will call on your shove

      i think it is Ok.
      But what can i do on the turn?
      Check/ call or check/ fold or bet / fold?

      In fact on the folp i CBet is wrong too? there is no worse hands will call me?
      The Cbet is a protection bet?
      Sorry i think i am so foolish to understand what can i do is Ok.
      Any way I will continue to work hard. :evil:
    • Alesh123
      Alesh123
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      Joined: 02.03.2009 Posts: 32
      The only hand that will call will be JJ i guess.
      So my oppinion is: you are underdog after flop against that player on average.
      He has : W$SD WTS (75/18). So he goes to showdown when he has good hands - so he don't bluff a lot.
      So on turn you c/fold.

      So why you thing to call ?
      If he has AT or. 77 how many outs do you have agains him for call?
      Btw i will also bet all-in if bet will be larger than 1/2 of my money.

      I guess Gerv want you to bet a little more than he need to call with flush.

      Btw that is just my (beginner) opinion:)

      Ashko
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      He has : W$SD WTS (75/18). So he goes to showdown when he has good hands - so he don't bluff a lot.

      Nice!
      Thank u very much! :)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      CO plays superstandard so I bet like $1.2 on the Turn to lure those worse pocket pairs in

      If he shoves, I don't think it is a mistake to bet/call the Turn

      Your flop cBet sizing is also big because you want worse pocket pairs to be still calling you all day long

      - Gerv
    • allen82082
      allen82082
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      If he shoves, I don't think it is a mistake to bet/call the Turn

      Why?
      I guess because if i bet 1.2 Co shove my required equity is 1.53/(2.65+1.2+1.53+1.53)=22%
      zh.pokerstrategy.com
      牌面:: Td7hTs4s
      赢率 胜 和
      MP2 35.35% 35.35% 0.00% { QhQc }
      CO 64.65% 64.65% 0.00% { JJ-TT, 77, ATs, ATo }
      Is it right?

      Your flop cBet sizing is also big because you want worse pocket pairs to be still calling you all day long

      Your means is i bet 0.8 on the flop is too big?
      Just o.6 is ok? :)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by allen82082
      If he shoves, I don't think it is a mistake to bet/call the Turn

      Why?
      I guess because if i bet 1.2 Co shove my required equity is 1.53/(2.65+1.2+1.53+1.53)=22%
      zh.pokerstrategy.com
      牌面:: Td7hTs4s
      赢率 胜 和
      MP2 35.35% 35.35% 0.00% { QhQc }
      CO 64.65% 64.65% 0.00% { JJ-TT, 77, ATs, ATo }
      Is it right?
      You just answered your own question :f_biggrin: I would add 88/99 as well btw

      [QUOTE]
      Your flop cBet sizing is also big because you want worse pocket pairs to be still calling you all day long

      Your means is i bet 0.8 on the flop is too big?
      Just o.6 is ok? :) [/quote]Yes that's better :) !