Razz luck or skill? | General Poker Discussion

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- gemgem69
  
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  I really don't know whether there is much skill to razz i have been playing it lately and winning quite abit but I don't know if I am being lucky.
  
  I mean there are simple things like if your last to act raising with a low card to take the antes and reading your opponents hand and what streets they have bet on could be considered skill in reading whether they have a better low. But in the long run can a profit be made from playing low stakes razz cash or does rake and luck play a major factor. Plus Id like to hear from any winning stud/razz players.
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- sw0ldo
  
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  - 14.04.2008, 15:11
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  From what I've heard razz is a very high variance game as any card can kill your hand completely. Although I guess the opposition won't be that strong I doubt there is that much teaching material for the game.
  
  Hope this helped.
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- swissmoumout
  
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  - 14.04.2008, 15:26
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  100% luck.
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- swissmoumout
  
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  - 14.04.2008, 15:27
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  actually there's 20% skill, too. Not sure 'bout that though
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- ManniXXX
  
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  - 14.04.2008, 22:21
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  120% of luck and skill huh? That's gotta give you an edge
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- swissmoumout
  
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  - 15.04.2008, 13:56
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  Originally posted by ManniXXX
  120% of luck and skill huh?
  yup. that's razz. see why it's so f"ked up? ^^
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- SoyCD
  
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  - 15.04.2008, 14:09
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  If it didn't include skill there wouldn't be WSOP events for it
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- swissmoumout
  
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  so why does the main event exist? o.O
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- SoyCD
  
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  - 15.04.2008, 14:32
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  Originally posted by swissmoumout
  so why does the main event exist? o.O
  Its a relic from times where skill was still needed
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- gemgem69
  
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  - 15.04.2008, 14:39
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  - This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by gemgem69: 15.04.2008 14:39.
  Huck seed reckons there is alot of skill to it. He explains how he remebers every1s door cards and works out whther is low if worth going for or not. And I am sure he has loads of other of technigues as well. He has won two razz bracelets. Is this the equilavent of a poker player winning two scratch cards. And the WSOP main event is a poker players lottery.
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- swissmoumout
  
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  - 15.04.2008, 16:07
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  - This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by swissmoumout: 15.04.2008 16:13.
  ^
  of course there's skill to razz. It's just that the beats are so frequent and, especially, frustrating that we assume that no skill is involved ^^
  
  edit: also, helemaalnicks sucks at razz. So I didn't want to humiliate him by admitting that there's skill to razz, in case he came by this thread
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