[NL2-NL10] Monsterdraw Turn Play

    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

      UTG+1: $12.16 (121.6 bb)
      UTG+2: $4.63 (46.3 bb)
      MP1: $9.05 (90.5 bb)
      MP2: $5.25 (52.5 bb)
      Hero (MP3): $10 (100 bb)
      CO: $5.13 (51.3 bb)
      BTN: $6.85 (68.5 bb)
      SB: $15.21 (152.1 bb)
      BB: $10.25 (102.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T A
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB folds

      Flop: ($0.90) 2 9 7 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Very drawy C-Bet didn't make sense.

      Turn: ($0.90) 8 (2 players)
      SB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

      I had a lot of outs on the turn. 9 for flush draw + 4 for OESD + 2 Aces. I've discounted them and I won't consider T as an out since that could complete another draw. So a total of 15 outs. Should I raise here with so many outs instead of just calling?

      River: ($1.70) 3 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Results: $1.70 pot ($0.08 rake)
      Final Board: 2 9 7 8 3
      Hero mucked T A and lost (-$0.80 net)
      SB showed 9 K and won $1.62 ($0.82 net)
  • 4 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello maheepsangari,

      Rather CB yourself while you have fold equity + you have a lot of backdoors there and of course even overcards than Call it on the turn where you don't get the implied odds. ;)

      Best Regards.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello maheepsangari,

      Rather CB yourself while you have fold equity + you have a lot of backdoors there and of course even overcards than Call it on the turn where you don't get the implied odds. ;)

      Best Regards.
      Wouldn't C-Betting here be wrong? Any :heart: Flush-draw will call, Straight-draws will call, I'd just be bluff C-Betting here since I only have backdoors and over-cards one of them being useless cause it might complete a draw.
    • flexurmind
      flexurmind
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.11.2010 Posts: 197
      I must agree with maheepsangari that cbeting that flop would almost be to the fold equity, but on the turn you got a lot of equity, though it just one card to come, so i think, if u think u have a lot of fold equity over him u could 3bet, other way i think a call is fine.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      No, we have backdoor nutFD/SD, we have overcards, we have fold equity, and even if he has a FD we are getting value from them, ain't we? We are securing for us a free card for river while we can Check behind on the turn cause we have the position. So standard CB for me. :)

      Also as I mentioned, you don't get implied odds on turn anymore if you Call like that! Even vs 1/2 pot size. :) Not of course talking about this card but any blank or any which gives you a draw.