[NL2-NL10] NL 10, SH, QQ - Kxxr: call or fold

    • Anger86
      Joined: 17.08.2008 Posts: 511
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      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
      MP2 calls $0.10, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, MP2 raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $3.50, MP2 calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($7.15) K, 4, 5 (2 players)
      MP2 bets $7.40, Hero ?

      Villain's stats:
      24 hands: 33/21, pretty much unknown.

      Cant have too much of an idea, what exactly he is limp-raising pre flop. [BNo stats]
      So preflop I give him: QQ+, AK allways. Sometimes it could be AQ+, TT+, but we can't know that.
      Anyway, I'm going broke pre flop.
      Fun stuff happens on the flop, where Kxx kind of beats my range vs. AK, QQ+.
      Against TT+, AQ+ I'm flipping = equity wise.

      I basically had 2 ideas here:
      1. He's playing really horrible with a AK, KK+. Horrible = because pot is so big, it's so easy to get the money in.
      Why should he want create fold equity with better hands?
      Although people tend do that weird stuff on my site.


      2. He is bluffing and this way creating a fold equity. Kind of.
      He rarely will bluff out better hands.
      He just isolates himself against stronger OP's range.

      This hand is the weakest of my range, as I'm having:
      AK, QQ+ there.

      Board: Kc 5d 4h

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 74.517% 70.48% 04.03% 753615 43116.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
      Hand 1: 25.483% 21.45% 04.03% 229353 43116.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }
  • 2 replies
    • numbnutter
      Joined: 21.09.2011 Posts: 139
      For me, I always assume a limp raise is KK+ if it is the first time i've seen it from that opponent. Yes it makes no sense but they've seen Barry Greenstein do it on high stakes poker and think it will make them a pro :D
      So the first time, this is a fold. If they do it again later when I have a similar holding then i'll think about playing back.

      You even say yourself you give him a preflop range of QQ+, AK+ always, so why do you want to go broke? You're not doing very well against this range at all:

             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    40.21%  38.35%   1.86% { QhQs }
      MP3    59.79%  57.93%   1.86% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

      So for me, having only invested 4bb, I'm just gonna fold this to his reraise. Get some reads on him first and then put your stack in when you can be more certain of being ahead ;)
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Anger86,

      Preflop: Easy Raise/Fold against the limp/raise, it's very often going to be KK+ or something similar.

      As played
      Postflop: Easy fold as well. :)

      Best Regards.