[NL20-NL50] FR Nl25 KK

    • lood88
      lood88
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.09.2010 Posts: 88
      Alright, her's the hand:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG1:
      $26.42
      UTG2 (Hero):
      $25.00
      MP1:
      $45.47
      MP2:
      $25.77
      MP3:
      $37.72
      CO:
      $36.17
      BU:
      $28.37
      SB:
      $24.75
      BB:
      $24.75


      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with K, K.
      UTG1 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 3 folds, BB raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $3.25, MP3 folds, BB calls $2.25.

      Flop: ($6.85) K, 3, A (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $4.00.

      Turn: ($14.85) A (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $17.50(All-In), BB calls $17.50.

      River: ($49.85) 2 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $49.85.


      So, I played for maybe 10 hands or so before this. I usually don't play at this limits so I had absolutely no stats nor reads on anyone. There were a lot of preflop raises.
      I'm in early position so I decide to limp/raise. BB raises, just as I wanted and he calls my 3 bet. We're heads up.
      The flop is excellent, I have a set, there's an ace on board and a flush draw. BB checks, I bet a bit less then 2/3's, he calls.
      So my first thought after he called was that he's on flush draw, probably some connectors or nut flush. If he had let's say QTh or JTh, I would maybe expect a raise since he has 13 outs. I add some Ax combos excluding AK where I would definitely expect to get raised on this board or even preflop.
      I partially excluded pocket ace's as well as I would expect a preflop raise. I said partialy since his check/call here doesn't tell me much. If he flat called preflop I wouldn't expect a raise on this flop.
      Turn is another ace. Villain checks and I'm not sure what to do. A decent sized bet would be around $10-11 leaving me with $6-7. I was thinking about checking or shoving.
      Why check? I believed he was on a flush draw and since I hit a full, maybe give him a free card to possibly hit a flush and pay me out.
      Shove? If he would call a bet of 10 or 11, he would pay my all in. So I'm thinking about hands that would beat me here. It's 1 combo of aces, 2 combos of AK and 6 combos of A3. The hands that would pay me out are 6 combos of pocked 3's, Ax combos and 4 flush draw - gut shot combos.

      What would you do? On which hand would you put this unknown?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello lood88,

      Welcome to the NL Hand Evaluation Forum! Hopefully we will see more hands from you in the future. I hope that with our help you can improve your play and as well move up the limits. We will be waiting for the next hands and till that good luck on tables!

      Preflop: Never-Ever limp/raise, it's the worst line to pick here. :f_cry:

      As played
      Postflop: Well, most likely I would just Check the turn and let him maybe even catch some flush-draws or whatsoever. :D He may also even bluff, cause if he has any kind of Ax hand he is going broke anyways, no matter what, even if we Check behind.

      Best Regards.
    • lood88
      lood88
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.09.2010 Posts: 88
      Hi veriz,

      Thank you! I'm actually taking a short brake from online poker at the moment, playing live only. I come online just to generate some rake so I don't lose points. Today I noticed that playing in casino with bunch of dumbheads affected my game in a very negative way. Started to think alike :f_cry:
      Hope I won't have lot of trouble to re-adapt. I sure will post some hands soon!

      Preflop: Really? Seemed like a good idea on a table with a lot of preflop raises and relatively high amount of limpers.
      Is there any case where it would be justified to limp/raise or would you advise not to use that line at all?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Yeah, live play may hurt your game. Playing them myself time to time and I am there really a maniac who plays a lot of hands. :D

      About preflop yes, it's very easy to understand with what you limp/raising. Especially every time I see someone doing that I automatically put him on very strong range, first guess KK+, depending on the opponent maybe QQ+. But mainly very strong range.
    • lood88
      lood88
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.09.2010 Posts: 88
      So if you were in his spot and you hold AA, would you raise preflop?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by lood88
      So if you were in his spot and you hold AA, would you raise preflop?
      You mean first in? Of course. :)