# FL Player?

• Bronze
Joined: 30.12.2007
For all the FL players out there, is it true that FL is better for you if you are inclined in math? Can you win big money in FL?

I'm an NL player considering to invest my time in studying FL because of its math aspect. I'm an applied mathematics major and I think it would be better for me to try FL given my course. Any comments? Thanks! Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
• 6 replies
• Black
Joined: 16.10.2007
Both NL and FL require some basic understanding of the mathematics behind the game, I wouldn't say one requires more "math" than the other but FL does have quite a lot of understanding of equity percentages and hand ranges needed to excel at the upper limits.
• Bronze
Joined: 30.12.2006
In my opinion, the math involved while _playing_ is very basic in both NL and FL. The concepts behind FL may be a bit more math-intensive than the concepts behind NL (just an assumption). However, to understand and follow these concepts, you probably don't really need a math background at all, just some basic common sense
• Bronze
Joined: 30.12.2007
Hmmm... with that said, I guess I'll stick with NL. Thanks a lot guys!
• Bronze
Joined: 29.10.2006
One major difference between NL an FL are when drawing: In NL you can call more or less any draw profitably on the flop, if you are up against a fish who will stack off to you if you hit your draw later, since you have so good implied odds. In FL you have to calculate your odds more explicit since the betting sizes are fixed (Do'h) and offers much lower implied odds. So you have to be able to do basic pot-odds calculations decently (or get a program to do it for you if you are too lazy or too bad at math).. Speaking of math btw:

http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/199

Very impressive video

Best regards and good luck,
Mugge
• Bronze
Joined: 20.02.2008
Originally posted by Mugge88
One major difference between NL an FL are when drawing: In NL you can call more or less any draw profitably on the flop, if you are up against a fish who will stack off to you if you hit your draw later, since you have so good implied odds. In FL you have to calculate your odds more explicit since the betting sizes are fixed (Do'h) and offers much lower implied odds. So you have to be able to do basic pot-odds calculations decently (or get a program to do it for you if you are too lazy or too bad at math).. Speaking of math btw:

http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/199

Very impressive video

Best regards and good luck,
Mugge
That guy is seriously crazy good. Good analysis of the situation as well The concepts (equity percentages and hand ranges) do get quite complex if your playing FL like a science - but in practice both formats require similar amounts of actual applied math (since you can also get very mathematical in NL as well)
• Bronze
Joined: 28.03.2008
Is that real? He has a little white headphone on....fishy....