Pushing 100% on SB [180 man and polish rock inside]

    • deltoos
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      Hi everyone!

      I'm 24 yo dude living in Poland, working full time and playing poker in his spare time as much as he can. Well.. I guess this is where I start from. I discovered poker about 4 years ago, even had some periods where I have taken in pretty seriously. Back in 2009 I managed to get on masive heater and regardless being a fish I was I managed to ship some MTTs in a very shord period of time. Those ships included ~900$ score on Titan, winning a satellite on FTP for ~500$, finishing 2nd in some turney on FTP for ~400$. Believe me, it was huge money for eastern Europe and for a student, which I was back then.

      Luckily I had some humility and cashed out most of my winnings leaving myself 30 BI for 5$ tournaments, which I considered enough (lol). Needless to say, I lost my remaining moniez and forgot about poker for a while.

      About a year later I decided to buy some poker books (harrington, kill everyone) and study. Deposited some money on FTP and started playing STT. After quitting my job on may 2011 I decided to give poker a serious try. I don't have to mention how bad timing it was as I lost my entire bankroll, that I build up to 1,2k$ on 6,5 STTs on some sunny June day. Luckily I had some savings so I just got through summer without any job which was really cool.

      With the start of september I decided to try 2,5$ 180 man. I played them for a while in 2010 but playing 6 tables tiled I decided I can't print much money in them. During my serious play on FTP I learned how to handle 12 tables at one time and thought it was possible to get some serious volume with 30% ROI.

      I started with 9 tables, quickly switched to 12 but still I couldn't get as much volume as I wished. After some time I decided to send job application to some random companies, just to see if I am good enough to get employed somewhere. I got invited for 2 interviews, and after about one month of recruitment prodceduress I got a job in a big outsourcing company (I guess I didn't mention I have a degree in computer science).

      So from 15th october I've been working full time, having not much time for poker. In january this year I decided to try it hard. Increased my tables to 15, and I think this is enough untill I get another monitor. I get home at ~6PM, and 2 times a week I fire up 4-5h sessions. In other days I go out for running (I'm training orienteering). On sunday I put in the biggest session for about 6-7 hours. Trying to stick to this schedule will bring me around 800-1000 games per month and in this blog I will try to update you about my progress in stakes and skills :)

      I hope not tl;dr

      My graph on 2,5$ 180 man so far:



      Swing at ~2500 game was a small shot at 8$ (only 30 games), didn't feel comfortable with my roll so moved back to 2,5. I plan to hit 8$ with 300 BI and I hope I won't have to go down again.

      I prefer not to give away my SN in public, maybe via PM if anyone is interested.
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    • fruktpuff
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      Welcome to our blog section!

      Glad to see you doing well!

      How's the orienteering training in the late winter/early spring? Isn't it a bit hard/tricky to run when the ground's frozen/becomes wet/freezes on top and then more snow coming on top of the ice making it risky to run lots on it?

      I love me some 180s action myself, but never been doing quite as well as you have!

      Will be following this for sure!

      best of luck with both your blogging and your crushing/moneyprinting!

      Regards,
      Richard
    • deltoos
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      Thanks for a nice welcome :)

      During winter we mostly do our trainings without maps, just like regular athletes. Of cours if the circumstanses are favourable we can perform some trainings in the forest.

      The situation that you described is sooo evil! The worst situation is when it becomes wet/freeze/and become wet again. The ice under a thin layer of water is very very dangerous. Luckily it mostly occurs when spring is about to come :) In middle winter it's no problem to run in snow. Only syberian temperatures (in february i fell to -25 C!) aren't very encouraging to get your ass outside from comfy house.

      I hope you will see me crushing in no time!
    • deltoos
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      After running like 'meh' in february finally the day that all tournament players love came. Winning flips in key spots is good. Thanks to yesterday I managed to turn this month into a winning one.

      When I have 3 FTs running in the same time, my game on other tables is certainly C - game, need to work on that!

      +366$ day, feel good :)

    • deltoos
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      Just some good Polish rock, hope you enjoy it ;)



      Today I'm not playing as I'm having my friend's birthday. I guess I will try not to get too wasted :D
    • KozakFB
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      sick graph man, I would say good luck but looks like you don't really need it :P
    • fruktpuff
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      3 FT at once in 2.5 180s? Sweet, not sure I've ever managed that one!

      How many tables do you normally run(Not during start-up/close-down of session, of course, but the main part of the duration)
    • deltoos
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      Originally posted by fruktpuff
      3 FT at once in 2.5 180s? Sweet, not sure I've ever managed that one!

      How many tables do you normally run(Not during start-up/close-down of session, of course, but the main part of the duration)
      I'm playing 15 tables continuously with HM and TN. After 3h I stop opening new tables, so the actual legth of the session may vary from 4-4.5 and during that time I usually play ~60 games when I'm running good and ~70 when running poorly.

      Yesterday I had another 'god-mode' session. Just to mention few:
      :spade: on FT I had AA vs JJ vs AK for 150k pot (7 handed)
      :heart: JJ vs KK for 30k pot on SFT
      :diamond: 99 vs AA for chiplead with 25 ppl left

      Missed some luck 3-4 handed but hey, I can't complain since I got really nice scores:
      - 1 x 1st
      - 1 x 2nd
      - 2 x 3rd
      - 1x 4th

      Ended a day with ~230$ profit. Good heater is good ;)



    • fruktpuff
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      Sweet results, makes me want to get back in the game for sure!
    • deltoos
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      Unfortunately haven't played a session for a while.. My grinding monday had to be postponed because I had to pick my brother from the aiport in the evening. Well, happens. On tuesday I went to the traning, according to my schedule and yesterday I realized that I was 30 point short to achieve silverstar on stars.

      After football match Poland - Portugal (0-0) i decided to fire 6 max super turbos for 7$. It took me around 30 minutes to get my points but I ran so bad I ended with -50$. Not really worth the silverstar X( I used to play some HTs in the past and noticed, they were quite soft actually. Might include them in my schedule when I don't have enough time for 180 session. Quite swingy but I have a solid bankroll for them so don't worry.

      Tommorow I'm going with my friend to casino. I feel I have an edge.
      Hope to 10x my cash and have a big night :f_p:
    • deltoos
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      Finally I managed to play first march 180 man session and it went really good again :) I'm happy to have such good results but I'm a bit afraid the downswing is just around the corner :D Anyway, I guess no point in thinking about it.

      So today I felt I was playing really good game apart from making a few horrible missclicks :evil: For first two hours I struggled to build any decent stack as I got sucked or lost flips in almost every big spot. After this time my luck probably woke up thinking "Oh shit, sry dude i forgot it's playing time". This may I final tabled some tourneys and ended up with a decent profit.

      In opposite to 180s hyper turbos don't go too good. Sample is nothing though, so I'll wait with any judgements unitl I play 1k of these or so. I hope to get this volume by the end of march and more than 600 of 180s.

      Graph, including 7$ Hyper turbos 6 max



      And some polish rock :) Hope you enjoy it!

    • deltoos
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      Another good day on my account. Unfortunately I felt I wasn't playing my best A game, maybe B+. After 8 hours of work another 5 hours of poker are quite tiring in fact.

      Anyway I'm satified that I'm playing according to my plan. I decided to cut sunday session to 5-6 hours because after 7-8h session which I ended at 1AM and got only 6h of sleep I felt like shit at work. Volume will suffer a bit but well.. I'm not a robot!

      Yesterday I had the softest FT ever, but badbeat vulnerable with one loose passive player. Somehow he managed to rise from 1k chips at 3/6k blind and I got HU with him which again, was the easiest HU ever. His line was 100% of time limp pf, fold missed flop and call my raise pf and fold missed flop. Every time I took him down to 5bb and shipped a decent hand he woke up with st like AK, AQ, 99 which of course always held. 5x the same scenario.. limp/fold, call/fold, down to BB, I ship, he call with monster and BOOM, double up. Finally his Q2 didn't hold to my K6 and I won my last running tournament.

      Today I'm taking a day off for some running and rest. I feel like a good book :)
      Std graph:



      The sickest thing is that I have ~50% ROI over 2k games. Omg how much I'd love to keep it this way..
    • JohanRember
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      Nice!

      Don't stop posting.

      Btw, post some hands and your thought process :) !
    • deltoos
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      Originally posted by JohanRember
      Nice!

      Don't stop posting.

      Btw, post some hands and your thought process :) !
      Thanks for your post!

      Good point, I will try to post some problematic hands in my future posts.

      As everybody knows the key point in these tournaments i to play the best Push/fold possible. The key factor in push/fold game is estimating opponents ranges. If you can't estimate them properly you can't play play optimal ranges. Of course you can play nash ranges but while it may not be exploitable it is surely not the optimal one. However, it should be a good starting point for many players. In analysis of other players I often see sentences like "Ok, he SHOULD push here this and that so I have x% equity vs this range. I call". In my opinion they often OVERESTIMATE ranges by perceiving other players as good ones. Of course their ranges can be possible but most likely only for very good players. Needles to say, there aren't that many of them on micro stakes.

      Another interesting situation is when hero is down to 3-5bb. A lot of player believe that they should push ATC first in no matter what position they have or the stacks setup is. This is of course very bad idea. Of course sometimes it IS profitable to do such moves but very often it's pure EV-. I also often see players pushing total crap with 3-4bb when they have 0% fold equity. Bad idea - again.

      I also don't like the crap "I'm playing to win". Lol, sure, so let's take - EV spots. Our play should ALWAYS be based on CEV or $EV, especially on FT.
      Recently I have heard opinion like "I know ICM but I don't play according to it. In fact I screw it". Srsly dude, WTF?? ICM is for real. It does not disapper when you say "Yes, it exists but I dont take it under consideration". Well, maybe you don't but your bankroll surely do.

      Sometimes people just believe what they heard. I encourage you: THINK by yourself. If anyone say PUSH, don't follow it blindly. Consider fold, consider raise/fold. If you understand principles and numbers you can create the best game on your own.
    • deltoos
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      What I profit on 180 man I lose on HT :f_confused: Sample still small but.. they are pretty tilting! Somehow I manage to resist and am able to play my game. Not easy though, as I'm running 20BI under EV (which is at -4% ROI) after 150 games.

      Not gonna give up that easy! If I'm down after 1k games I guess I'll just stick to 180 man..
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      wow sick graph!! nice blog will be following :) when do you think you will be taking you next shotsat the $8's?
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      wow sick graph!! nice blog will be following :) when do you think you will be taking you next shotsat the $8's?
    • deltoos
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      Originally posted by ExternalUseOnly
      wow sick graph!! nice blog will be following :) when do you think you will be taking you next shotsat the $8's?
      Thx! :) Good to have another reader :s_grin: My plan was to enter $8 definitely with 300 BI. Anyway it's not easy to keep the session alive with only 8's so Ill def be mixing with 2,5 till I have roll for 3r. I'm BRM nit, but it works for me ;)
    • ExternalUseOnly
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      Better to be a nit and be comfortable and still playing you A game though right? :) Gl sir keep crushing
    • JohanRember
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      Originally posted by deltoos
      What I profit on 180 man I lose on HT :f_confused: Sample still small but.. they are pretty tilting! Somehow I manage to resist and am able to play my game. Not easy though, as I'm running 20BI under EV (which is at -4% ROI) after 150 games.

      Not gonna give up that easy! If I'm down after 1k games I guess I'll just stick to 180 man..
      HT?

      Explain please
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