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Are you the greatest poker villian?

    • MoneyDearest
      MoneyDearest
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.05.2011 Posts: 119
      Didn't see any threads on people's attempts at getting the Poker Villian award in Sidekick, so I thought I'd start one!

      For those of you oblivious, here are the rules to become The Greatest Poker Villian:

      • Hole cards are 72o.
      • Final pot is at least 200 big blinds
      • Both hole cards are used for your final hand.
      • The hand is dealt to at least 4 players.
      • The hand must go to showdown.
      • The game type is No Limit Hold'em.

      Here are my attempts so far :coolface:

      iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 10 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      MP+1: $2.30
      MP+2: $1.88
      LP: $5.00
      CO: $2.50
      BTN: $1.76
      SB: $1.53
      Hero (BB): $2.00
      UTG: $0.29
      UTG+1: $1.70
      MP: $0.98

      SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 2:club: 7:diamond:

      UTG raises to $0.29, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.54, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.39, 3 players) 3:heart: 6:spade: 5:spade:
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.96, Hero calls $1.46

      Turn: ($4.31, 3 players) 9:heart:

      River: ($4.31, 3 players) J:heart:

      CO shows A:diamond: T:spade: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 57%, Flop 57%, Turn 62%)
      Hero mucks 2:club: 7:diamond: (High Card, Jack) (Pre 15%, Flop 18%, Turn 17%)
      UTG shows 7:heart: Q:diamond: (High Card, Queen) (Pre 28%, Flop 25%, Turn 21%)
      CO wins $4.03

      Couldn't help myself when I saw the gutshot! :s_cool:



      And here is an actual win :D ! (No where near large enough pot though...)

      iPoker - £0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG+1: £5.60
      MP: £4.70
      MP+1: £4.86
      LP: £2.00
      CO: £7.47
      Hero (BTN): £2.24
      SB: £4.00
      BB: £1.52
      UTG: £1.00

      SB posts SB £0.02, BB posts BB £0.04

      Pre Flop: (£0.06) Hero has 2:diamond: 7:club:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, LP raises to £0.08, CO calls £0.08, Hero calls £0.08, fold, fold

      Flop: (£0.30, 3 players) 6:club: 7:heart: 6:heart:
      LP checks, CO checks, Hero bets £0.15, fold, CO calls £0.15

      Turn: (£0.60, 2 players) 4:spade:
      CO checks, Hero bets £0.30, CO calls £0.30

      River: (£1.20, 2 players) Q:club:
      CO checks, Hero checks

      CO shows J:heart: A:club: (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 68%, Flop 28%, Turn 14%)
      Hero shows 2:diamond: 7:club: (Two Pair, Sevens and Sixes) (Pre 32%, Flop 72%, Turn 86%)
      Hero wins £1.12


      Has anyone actually gotten this?

      Post your attempts below!

      John.
  • 16 replies
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 11,155
      Do you need to win the pot too, in showdown?
    • MoneyDearest
      MoneyDearest
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      Joined: 08.05.2011 Posts: 119
      Yes, the hand must go to showdown, and yes, you have to win :D !
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 11,155
      Easy game. Go to NL2, and every time you have 72 you shove. Won't take long to suckout on someone. :)
    • MoneyDearest
      MoneyDearest
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      Joined: 08.05.2011 Posts: 119
      Well, Yes.

      Apart from that you don't get 72o very often... (my very n00b calc puts it at something like 6 every 1000, but I have to learn how to exclude 72s :P ! )
      [edit: okay, I stopped being so lazy, correct answer is 2*12/1326 = 18/1000?]

      And you have to shove big stack and get called by bigstack (or by 2 mid stacks).

      I was going to say that you'd have to play like a maniac to get called enough times, but actually, after a look at equilab,

      you can play like a maniac, and get called by, 22+,A2+,KT+,QT+,JT,98s,87s,76s and you can suck out 30%.

      Or, you play TAG, your all-in get called by JJ+,AJ+, and you suck out 25%

      or at worst, QQ+,AK, for 21%, or at best 66+,A9+,KQ+,AT+ for 25%.

      So, lets say you play tag, then you get 72o 6/1000 hands, then you shove all-in, then you get called by an 11% range, * 9 players, say, every time. Then you win 25% of the time...

      So, you could do this after 1000/(6/4) = 666 hands...? for the cost of $6?

      Seems an appriopiate number for the ultimate poker villian :D !

      Would be interested in hearing some pro calcs!
      [Edit: Yes, I didn't think of Vlamidimirs point, that you two cards have to be used, so I guess your probabilities plummet! I thought 666 sounded too small alright!]

      Cheers,

      John.
    • ExternalUseOnly
      ExternalUseOnly
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      Joined: 30.01.2010 Posts: 3,373
      haha nice thread looking forward to seeing some epic 72 hands
    • VladimirN
      VladimirN
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      Joined: 22.02.2008 Posts: 438
      [ ] Both hole cards are used for your final hand.
    • MoneyDearest
      MoneyDearest
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      Joined: 08.05.2011 Posts: 119
      196/200 bb!

      Aaaaarrrghhhh!! :f_mad:

      Closest so far? :s_cool:

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BTN: $5.00
      SB: $9.50
      Hero (BB): $12.84
      UTG: $3.20
      UTG+1: $5.00
      MP: $3.76
      MP+1: $4.93
      LP: $7.39
      CO: $5.52

      SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 2:spade: 7:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.12, 2 players) 2:heart: 7:club: A:diamond:
      Hero bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10

      Turn: ($0.32, 2 players) 3:diamond:
      Hero bets $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30

      River: ($0.92, 2 players) 7:spade:
      Hero bets $5.00, UTG+1 calls $4.55 and is all-in

      Hero shows 2:spade: 7:heart: (Full House, Sevens full of Twos) (Pre 24%, Flop 72%, Turn 65%)
      UTG+1 mucks 7:diamond: T:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 76%, Flop 28%, Turn 35%)
      Hero wins $9.60
    • KozakFB
      KozakFB
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      Joined: 18.08.2011 Posts: 395
      Did they just rake 40c from a $10 pot? ^^
    • fruktpuff
      fruktpuff
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      Joined: 24.09.2010 Posts: 3,982
      Based on the HH, they raked $0.42 from a $10.02 pot.

      It seems about right to me, considering most rooms have 1c/20c in the pot rake, and Stars state, for this limit as follows.


      Stakes % Rake 2 Player Cap 3-4 Player Cap 5+ Player Cap
      $0.02/$0.05 4.15% $0.50 $0.50 $1.00
      So 10.02 * 0.0415 = 0.415830 (~42 cents)

      Sounds right to me!
    • nonamesleft
      nonamesleft
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      Joined: 30.12.2010 Posts: 80
      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
      iPoker
      7 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Player3 ($2.52)
      UTG+1 Player4 ($6.79)
      MP Player8 ($1.52)
      CO Player9 ($1.94)
      BTN Player10 ($1.14)
      SB Player1 ($5.55)
      BB hero ($8.67)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 7 players) hero is BB 2:spade: 7:club:
      5 folds, Player1 calls $0.02, hero checks

      Flop: 2:heart: 8:spade: 6:heart: ($0.08, 2 players)
      Player1 checks, hero checks

      Turn: 7:heart: ($0.08, 2 players)
      Player1 checks, hero bets $0.04, Player1 calls $0.04

      River: 2:club: ($0.16, 2 players)
      Player1 checks, hero bets $0.12, Player1 raises to $0.24, hero raises to $0.60, Player1 goes all-in $5.47, hero calls $4.87

      Final Pot: $11.10
      Player1 shows
      4:heart: 4:club:

      hero wins $10.36 (net +$4.81)

      Player1 collects $0.00 (net -$5.55)

      Didn't get the poker villain kick for a 250bb pot :(
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,015
      doesn't previous post qualify?
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
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      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Originally posted by Kyyberi
      Easy game. Go to NL2, and every time you have 72 you shove. Won't take long to suckout on someone. :)
      Easiest on Stars because you can play 250bb deep from the start. :f_cool:
    • Targetme
      Targetme
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      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 1,888
      any mtt bvb spot where i get 72 and win pretty common :D
    • bradomurder
      bradomurder
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      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,331
      Originally posted by Targetme
      any mtt bvb spot where i get 72 and win pretty common :D
      for 200bb :s_confused: :f_o: :s_o: :s_mad: :f_confused:
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
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      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Can anyone think of the cheapest option?

      I know Everest has some SNGs that are 5c total. Play those and open shove ever 72 you get?
    • Schnitzelfisch
      Schnitzelfisch
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      Joined: 08.11.2008 Posts: 4,952
      what about rush poker? just wait till 72o and skip all the other nice cards :D