[NL2-NL10] MSS NL20 - KQo - Blindsteal

    • viccini
      viccini
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      $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem
      888
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($22.50)
      CO ($3.66)
      BTN ($22.89)
      SB ($20)
      Hero (BB) ($10)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 5 players) Hero is BB Q:club: K:diamond:
      3 folds, SB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: K:spade: 7:diamond: 6:spade: ($1.40, 2 players)
      SB bets $1.05, Hero calls $1.05

      Turn: 10:heart: ($3.50, 2 players)
      SB bets $2.62, Hero calls $2.62

      River: A:spade: ($8.74, 2 players)
      SB bets $8.74, Hero goes all-in $5.63

      Final Pot: $23.11
      SB shows
      8:spade: 5:spade:
      Hero shows
      Q:club: K:diamond:

      SB wins $22.11 (net +$9)

      Hero lost $10


      Villain is 20/14/1.9/30 VP/PF/AF/WTSD - 2k hands
      steal from SB 32%

      How should I play this hand?

      I call pre flop to play against his weaker range pos flop. Should I 3bet pre flop?

      Pos flop I call again, same reason as above. Should I raise flop or turn?

      On the river I feel committed and go broke. Should I have played the hand differently?

      thanks in advance!
  • 7 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Hey,

      I think you can shove the Turn because he will still call with just TP or OC+flushdraws. it is the only street where you still get value from flushdraws

      mostly I like to flat KQs pre and 3bet KQo because suitedness has more equity & playability :)

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • viccini
      viccini
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      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 337
      Originally posted by Gerv
      Hey,

      I think you can shove the Turn because he will still call with just TP or OC+flushdraws. it is the only street where you still get value from flushdraws

      mostly I like to flat KQs pre and 3bet KQo because suitedness has more equity & playability :)

      Best regards,
      Gerv
      Ok. And what if I call flop + turn and fold river since he'll problably not bet again for bluff? And what if he checks the river? Should I push or just check behind?

      ps. I didn't understand why I get value from flushdraws only on the turn. What about the flop? Wouldn't I get value raising the flop? =)

      tyvm!
    • Gerv
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      You risk too much on the Flop if you raise the Flop because 1) Your SPR is bigger and 2) his equity is still based on 2 streets

      If you call Turn and check back River if he checks (assuming he plays honest) you just missed tons of value versus his missed flushdraw ay ;)
    • viccini
      viccini
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      Originally posted by Gerv
      You risk too much on the Flop if you raise the Flop because 1) Your SPR is bigger and 2) his equity is still based on 2 streets

      If you call Turn and check back River if he checks (assuming he plays honest) you just missed tons of value versus his missed flushdraw ay ;)
      Ok. On last question: what if a :spade: comes on the turn an he bets again? Should I still shove or just call his bet and fold to another bet on the river?
    • Gerv
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      The questions you ask me are the wrong questions to ask because you disregard his bettingrange on the Turn at all

      What do you think his bettingrange on the Turn is? What is your equity?
    • viccini
      viccini
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      Originally posted by Gerv

      What do you think his bettingrange on the Turn is? What is your equity?
      Maybe hands like straight, sets, 2pairs, top pairs and some draws like FD+OESD, pair+FD, pair+OESD and some naked FD. Is it too tight? Against this range I have only 25% equity:


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      Board: ks7d6s ts
      Dead:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 25.610 % 22.201 % 6.818 % 70.981 % KdQc
      Player 2: 74.390 % 70.981 % 6.818 % 22.201 % KK, TT, 77-66, AKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, K9s+, QJs, QsTs, Qs9s, JsTs, Js9s, Ts9s, 98s, 8s7s, 76s, AKo, KTo+, QJo, 98o


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    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Well assuming he is not pure bluffing on a on the Turn, your equity goes down substantially as his turn cBet range on a s polarized

      Therefore you can fold ;)