[NL2-NL10] nl10 SH AKs multiway pot

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    • katrinvel
      katrinvel
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      i would reraise 2 dollars here
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      I would re-raise 3x initial raise- 1,5$+ called money 2x0,5= 2,5$
    • citystar12
      citystar12
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      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:diamond: , K:diamond:
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0,50, CO calls $0,50, BU calls $0,50, SB folds, Hero raises to $2,50, MP3 raises to $12,72 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero?
      what to put him on ?? should I call here?
    • armo
      armo
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      I would fold here, it's either you are way behind (AA,KK) or coinflip (any pp smaller than KK, AK). Unless you've seen villain push preflop with worse cards, because AQ, AJ, KQ are the only hands that you are ahead.
    • SonicXT
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      I call this. Too many pushers with QQ and AK to let this one go and with the dead money and the amount to call, it's +EV
    • armo
      armo
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      Hmmm, how do you calculate that this is EV+?
    • SonicXT
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      Amount to call = 7.5 $
      Potsize before call = 13.55 $

      Needed equity to make this call profitable = 7.5 / (13.55+7.5) ~= 36 %
      You have the right odds to call this as you have more than 36 % equity versus villains range [QQ+, AK]

      Your equity vs 5 possible hands :
      AKs v AA : 12 %
      AKs v KK : 34 %
      AKs v QQ : 46 %
      AKs v AKs : 50 %
      AKs v AKo : 52.5 %

      Given this, do you think you have 36 % on average or would villain almost certainly only do this with AA ?
      Notice that even if you'd be sure that villain has KK, the call would only be very marginally EV-
    • caber1
      caber1
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      I also call. Forget QQ-KK. I've seen 55 many a time.
    • armo
      armo
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      Ok, thanks Sonic for explanation :)
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      Originally posted by citystar12
      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:diamond: , K:diamond:
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0,50, CO calls $0,50, BU calls $0,50, SB folds, Hero raises to $2,50, MP3 raises to $12,72 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero?
      what to put him on ?? should I call here?
      Lets assume his pushing range is QQ+,AK (this range is very tight - typically you also see some lower pockets or bluffs, but we use a "worst case" scenario), then we have the following equity:

      Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

      143,833,536 games 0.038 secs 3,785,093,052 games/sec

      Board:
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 41.904% 22.62% 19.28% 32535636 27736416.00 { AKs }
      Hand 1: 58.096% 38.81% 19.28% 55825068 27736416.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }


      Given we have 42% Equity, we have a share on the pot of 8.40$ if we call. We have to call 7.50$, so a Call should show a longterm profit of 0,90$!