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[NL20-NL50] NL10 SH - TT 4bet blind vs. blind

    • kesgab
      kesgab
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.05.2007 Posts: 217
      Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10/$0.20 (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

      SB ($19.40) (Hero)
      BB ($28.13)
      MP3 ($20.00)
      CO ($8.87)
      Button ($20.00)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T:heart: , T:diamond:
      2 folds, Hero raises to 0.8, BB raises to 1.6, Hero raises to 4.8, BB raises All-In $27.93, 1 folds,

      Final Pot: $33.03
  • 5 replies
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      Not much you can do here without reads. If villian has low PFR you could call 3bet for set value. Otherwise easy fold.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      If you´re not going to make 4-bet/call with TT I would suggest just call his min-raise and then play pot oop.
      You have odds for set value+ he could always play AK that way.
    • kesgab
      kesgab
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.05.2007 Posts: 217
      Thanks for the advice Kaitz20!

      First, I have a simple question. 4bet/call means you call the 5bet which is usually an allin? So it just means you go allin with your hand no matter what (make a 6bet if it's needed)?

      So a 4bet/fold is not a good play with TT here. Is it because AK usually go allin with that much dead money already in the pot?
      Could you please explain it a little, what are the factors behind your suggestion?

      Thank you,
      kesgab
    • kesgab
      kesgab
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.05.2007 Posts: 217
      Thanks for the advice Kaitz20!

      First, I have a simple question. 4bet/call means you call the 5bet which is usually an allin? So it just means you go allin with your hand no matter what (make a 6bet if it's needed)?

      So a 4bet/fold is not a good play with TT here. Is it because AK usually go allin with that much dead money already in the pot?
      Could you please explain it a little, what are the factors behind your suggestion?

      Thank you,
      kesgab

      (sorry for the duplicate, i just forget to check the 'advise the judge to...' option)
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      Why 4-bet calling sucks: you already put 5$ in the pot, with 15$ behind. An all-in means paying 15$ for a 40$ pot, so you only need 37.5% equity:

      Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

      349,310,016 games 0.005 secs 69,862,003,200 games/sec

      Board:
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 63.587% 63.39% 00.20% 221421192 693396.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
      Hand 1: 36.413% 36.21% 00.20% 126502032 693396.00 { TT }


      If he shoves a pretty tight range, its very marginal. Given he may shove AQ (or some bluffs) its even money.

      More important: if you 4-bet/fold, your hand is not relevant anymore. You can do this with a hand like 72o - either you get the pot preflop or you fold. However, TT is way to strong to be played like a bluff. Hence, call and see a flop is better.