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[NL2-NL10] Q5o 12.03.

    • HansTheGreat
      HansTheGreat
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.02.2010 Posts: 3,808
      MP: $10.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 2.8, Hands: 133
      CO: $4.65 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 1.4, Hands: 131
      BTN: $14.20 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 6, 3B: 6, AF: 3.0, Hands: 89
      SB: $19.58 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 2.4, Hands: 1182
      Hero (BB): $10.90 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 4.2, Hands: 48317
      UTG: $11.62 - VPIP: 58, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 19
      UTG+1: $16.10 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 320

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 5 :diamond: Q :spade:
      UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP checks, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.30) 9 :club: 5 :heart: 2 :diamond: (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.28, UTG calls $0.28, MP folds, SB folds

      Turn: ($0.86) 5 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.72, UTG raises to $3.08, Hero folds
  • 3 replies
    • Wriggers
      Wriggers
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2009 Posts: 3,250
      Why do we bet the flop? We're betting into 3 other players with just middle pair? What is the reason for this bet? There are no draws out there so we can't get value from any worse as A high or 2x isn't going to be calling the flop multiway in a limped pot. I prefer a check here, expecting to see the pot get checked through and folding to a bet.

      On the turn I don't think we can fold to his raise. It's an ultra dry board and we're only beaten by 99, 22, 59, 52 and 5K+. Even though we only have 20 hands on UTG it's quite obvious that he's pretty fishy and since his AF is not N/A we can assume he does know where the "Bet" button is, I think he can be raising here with 9x or even as a complete bluff repping trips, and because it's a very dry board (Even fish sort of understand board texture :D )
    • HansTheGreat
      HansTheGreat
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.02.2010 Posts: 3,808
      Originally posted by Wriggers
      Why do we bet the flop? We're betting into 3 other players with just middle pair? What is the reason for this bet? There are no draws out there so we can't get value from any worse as A high or 2x isn't going to be calling the flop multiway in a limped pot. I prefer a check here, expecting to see the pot get checked through and folding to a bet.

      On the turn I don't think we can fold to his raise. It's an ultra dry board and we're only beaten by 99, 22, 59, 52 and 5K+. Even though we only have 20 hands on UTG it's quite obvious that he's pretty fishy and since his AF is not N/A we can assume he does know where the "Bet" button is, I think he can be raising here with 9x or even as a complete bluff repping trips, and because it's a very dry board (Even fish sort of understand board texture :D )
      I do mostly agree with you but it was a freeplay pot and I didn t wanna go broke. Veriz could you also evaluate it
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Sikac,

      Flop: I don't mind even the Bet on the flop here. We still even can be ahead or either get value from even draws or hit something on further streets. :)
      Turn: Most likely I would also tend to fold while it's just a freeplay pot. Not really worth to continue because for as at the best it's going to be a flippy spot. We haven't invested much into the pot and we can't be sure with what the guy raises either but it's mostly going to be towards strong hands:

      Board: 9:club: 5:heart: 2:diamond:  5:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    54.76%  47.84%   6.93% { 99, 22, A5s, K5s, Q5s, J5s, T5s, 85s, 75s, 65s, 54s, A5o, 65o }
      UTG+1  45.24%  38.31%   6.93% { Qs5d }

      We would need ~46% equity. :) So practically it's a break-even spot unless we widen even up his range.

      Best Regards.