[NL2-NL10] NL4: AJ 3bet OOP against fish

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $7.38 (184.5 bb)
      UTG: $5.35 (133.8 bb)
      MP: $3.07 (76.8 bb)
      CO: $4.20 (105 bb)
      BTN: $2.52 (63 bb)
      Hero (SB): $5 (125 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.04, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.08, Hero raises to $0.36, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.28

      Flop: ($0.80) 2 T 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16

      Turn: ($1.12) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $2 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Results: $1.12 pot ($0.07 rake)
      Final Board: 2 T 8 8
      BTN mucked and won $1.05 ($0.53 net)
      Hero mucked A J and lost (-$0.52 net)

      Openlimper's stats: VP/PFR/AF/WTS/hands 78/9/1.0/42/23
      BU's stats: VP/PFR/AF/FoldtoCbet/WTS/hands 87/36/1.7/50(18)/39/106

      Preflop: Given our opponent's stats I think that a 3bet for value is the best option.
      Flop: This is where I probably made a mistake, but the problem I faced was – is it worth cBetting this flop? We obviously can't make better hands to fold and our opponent is likely to just check behind with most hands because he is so passive. We can play our A high by hoping to get to the showdown for free. Since our opponent is quite likely to call us with any pair and there should not be too many worse hands that he can call our cBet with.
  • 7 replies
    • vinipyx77
      vinipyx77
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      Joined: 04.08.2007 Posts: 577
      preflop 3bet $0.20 enough
      flop bet $0.40
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      I would also 3-bet pf and I woudl not make it smaller to 0.24, so 3-betting for value to 0.36$ is also fine. I think c-bet is mostly more profitable than c/f or c/c. Board is a littlebit coordinated, but I think he would mostly play straight forward and fold to your c-bet if he doesn´t have anything. If you make it 0,4$, then you can shove on J, Q, K, A turns that really isn´t that few hands

      best regards,
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Would you really push a Q or a K turn card? Our opponent has a VPIP of 39.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Preflop: I like the 3bet here and also I like the sizing against his min-raise+having a limper. :)
      Postflop: And with our reads I wouldn't play it any differently. As long we can be pretty sure that he is Checking behind with his non-made hands and at the same time we wont make fold any better hands we can Check it. I would continue on the flop when I would hit. Nice hand!

      About Q/K card to barrel, I am not a huge fan of it, cause it still hits some of his broadway range as well. Especially for example a Q comes, it completes a range as for QJ or whatsoever. :) So I would plan mainly to go for value.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      If we weren't so sure that our opponent checks behind on the flop with his non-made hands too often, would a cBet be a better option? Looking at the stats I assume that worse Ax is likely to find a call on the flop just as well as gutshots + we get at least some fold equity against garbage hands (hands he might bet once we check), and I reallly think his range is very weak (a VPIP of 87 from such a sample size just simply has to be an indicator)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      As long his range is so wide I would most likely CB rather myself than turn my hand into bluff-catcher. We might even get value from draws and weaker Ax hands and never know what he is calling with. :f_biggrin:
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
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      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Thanks!