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[NL20-NL50] nl20 QQ vs cold4bshove

    • HitThe1Out
      Joined: 07.01.2011 Posts: 5,059
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
      SB ($18.93)
      BB ($7.28)
      UTG ($21.15)
      UTG+1 ($22.92)
      CO ($20.67)
      Hero ($20)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: Q:spade:

      UTG raises to $0.60, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, SB raises to $18.93 (AI), fold, HERO?

      Only 34 hands with villain, 24/24/25.

      What shall we do when opponent is unknown? Is this +ev call if we include rake on calculations?
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello HitThe1Out,

      As long he doesn't even have a full stack I guess it's a difficult situation. Cause those loose opponents which indicates his stack might even ship with just TT/JJ. Although that's true that it's a coin for us anyways, cause I doubt that you going to see a lot worse than JJ+/AK here. Or do you have any other information?

             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    52.63%  51.05%   1.58% { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
      UTG+1  47.37%  45.79%   1.58% { QdQs }

      We need ~45% equity, which includes rake. So practically if we exclude rake it's pretty much break-even. We have to consider him shipping with worse.

      Best Regards.
    • CallumN
      Joined: 04.01.2012 Posts: 1,141
      This is AK sooooooooo often IME
    • HitThe1Out
      Joined: 07.01.2011 Posts: 5,059
      I thought it a bit too in that spot and just couldn't find it +ev call since I didn't have any maniac reads on that spot. I thought there's no TT(JJ)/AQ in his range and we also block AQ.

      I folded, if I had had some specific knowledge that he/she might have some sort of rags in his/her range I would've called ofc.

      Thx :)