[NL2-NL10] Should I have slowplayed?

    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

      MP: $16.48 (103 bb)
      CO: $18.77 (117.3 bb) 31/8/3.5/0.0/29/26
      BTN: $15.20 (95 bb) 23/23/1.0/0.0/60/28
      Hero (SB): $41.54 (259.6 bb) 20/15/2.7/5.6/38/153
      BB: $23.51 (146.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
      MP folds, CO calls $0.16, BTN raises to $0.48, Hero calls $0.40, BB folds, CO calls $0.32

      Flop: ($1.60) 3 9 8 (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.64, Hero calls $0.64, CO raises to $2.56, BTN folds, Hero raises to $7.29, CO folds

      I just called cause I wanted the loose CO to stay in the hand and I was surprised when he raised. I figured he must have a set or a two pair to be raising into 2 opponents so I thought he was ready to get it in here itself and again I was surprised to see him fold.

      Results: $7.36 pot ($0.33 rake)
      Final Board: 3 9 8
      CO mucked and lost (-$3.04 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$1.12 net)
      Hero mucked 9 9 and won $7.03 ($3.99 net)
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello maheepsangari,

      I would most likely donk out myself on the flop. Check/Raising here is way too strong and they will just fold a lot weaker hands. Not that many hands continue here anyways.

      But as played Check/call is of course the worst option cause of giving very good odds for others to draw. Exactly for that given reason I would also donk the flop.

      As played still if we get Check/Raised I would just flat while not having anyone behind you, you also keep bluffs in the play. Doubt that there are that many draws in his range and we also give him room to hit. I would Call the flop and donk on turn to avoid him Checking behind and maybe even induce. But of course it ain't that huge mistake even if you get it it in.

      Best Regards.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      I check/called with the intention of blasting away on the turn. Check/raise would definitely have made many hands fold. There are only 2 hands that have a solid draw right now 67 and TJ. There aren't any flush draws either and the 3 :diamond: doesn't help with the straight so I thought I was fine with the call.

      The bet sizing was definitely poor from the BU. Say it had been ~$1.2 would check/calling still be a bad play?


      With the $0.64 bet and my call CO need about 18% equity to make the call. Had BU bet $1.2 then the CO would have needed 23% equity to call which he wouldn't have so his call would be a mistake.


      Board: 3:diamond: 9:heart: 8:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      CO     18.53%  13.84%   4.69% { JTs, 76s, JTo, 76o }
      BU     18.53%  13.84%   4.69% { JTs, 76s, JTo, 76o }
      BB     62.94%  62.94%   0.00% { 9d9c }


      Assuming the CO would fold behind after I called then the $0.64 bet by BU is cheap for him to draw. Had he raised $1.2 then he would need equity of 30% but he'd only have 26.16% here.


      Board: 3:diamond: 9:heart: 8:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      BU     26.16%  26.16%   0.00% { JTs, 76s, JTo, 76o }
      BB     73.84%  73.84%   0.00% { 9d9c }


      I understand why you recommend the donk so that I don't have to make these assumptions and can myself lead out and give them bad outs so that if they call they make a mistake.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Well, I wouldn't be Check/Calling here at all, definitely a lead out spot. Especially being multiway, you just don't want to see so many cards which complete his straight and then difficult to continue. Neither doesn't make sense to Check/Raise the turn which will be 10x stronger than maybe throwing a small raise on flop.