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[NL2-NL10] NL4; 3handed JJ

    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $4.02 (100.5 bb)
      SB: $4.51 (112.7 bb)
      Hero (BB): $5 (125 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
      BTN raises to $0.12, SB raises to $0.24, Hero calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.72) 5 Q 2 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($0.72) T (3 players)
      SB bets $0.54, Hero calls $0.54, BTN folds

      River: ($1.80) 5 (2 players)
      SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

      Results: $3.60 pot ($0.24 rake)
      Final Board: 5 Q 2 T 5
      SB showed K K and won $3.36 ($1.68 net)
      Hero mucked J J and lost (-$1.68 net)

      Opponents are unknown.
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Avatars91,

      Guess I might even give up on the river, I doubt that he would be bluffing anymore there. :( Turn of course is still fine while he could be even betting there with just overcards but on the river I doubt that he would continue bluffing.

      Best Regards.
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      The bet size on the river to me indicates a medium made hand most of the time (sometimes maybe a bluff even since our opponent could suspect us of having called with a flushdraw on the turn). I do not think villain has a strong hand on the flop since he would cBet for protection with such a hand and maybe only sometimes a flush would slowplay but that is unlikely since he is OOP (the results show that I am wrong but at that particular time in that situation I think that this thinking would apply). Once he bets on the turn I am highly suspicious of a T or even TT maybe. Few other hands make sense (maybe KJ semibluff). Could a call on the river given these assumptions be justified? I think that he is either bluffing or making a thin valuebet most of the time.
    • angalius
      angalius
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.11.2011 Posts: 465
      After your preflop call I think youre ussually behind or just coinflipin. Any Q K or A is a scare card. And even on the flop you have a Jhigh flushdraw which I actually feel as weak since after preflop raise hes ussually representing to have A or K in he hand which can be club in this hand.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Well, how many of those hands he has in his range? Even with Ax he has some showdown value cause he ain't making any pairs to fold with such a bet. Neither many KJ hands possible cause you block 2 J. Also it's still a 3bet pot -> could even have traps or whatsoever strong hands.

      Also if you think he is betting with Tx then from what he is getting value?
    • Avatars91
      Avatars91
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2009 Posts: 2,689
      Ok, I agree with you, thanks!