[NL20-NL50] Two Pair+Flush Draw

    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players


      CO: $17.61 (110.1 bb) 48/16/1.9/1.6/28/373
      Hero (BTN): $16 (100 bb) 25/20/2.0/22.2/43/62
      SB: $16 (100 bb)
      BB: $17.29 (108.1 bb)
      MP: $23.11 (144.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 A
      MP folds, CO raises to $0.32, Hero calls $0.32, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.88) A T 8 (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $0.64, CO calls $0.64

      Turn: ($2.16) J (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $1.60, CO raises to $7.04, Hero raises to $15.04 and is all-in, CO calls $8.00

      River: ($32.24) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
  • 10 replies
    • KillerFishes
      KillerFishes
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.07.2010 Posts: 2,313
      Hi maheepsangari,

      tbh, I think this is quite a overplay :) I just don't see ANY worse hands he plays like that ...

      What range did you assume he raises like that? Please, write it here and we will figure out where the problem is :f_p:

      Cya
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      I thought he could be semi bluffing with a lot of straight draws and flush draws. A pair + straight draws could also try to semi bluff here.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello maheepsangari,

      He is definitely not bluffing there and rather doing it for value. Our equity against strong range is very bad while just one card to come, therefore I would be towards just Bet/Folding it. :( He is also passive so I doubt that he would ever overplay just Ax hand.

      Best Regards.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      I've recently developed this bad habit of trying to catch people semi-bluffing with draws. Phew!!! Its cost me a lot lately. Same thing i did here, tried to catch him with my two pair. He had a straight with Q9.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by maheepsangari
      I've recently developed this bad habit of trying to catch people semi-bluffing with draws. Phew!!! Its cost me a lot lately. Same thing i did here, tried to catch him with my two pair. He had a straight with Q9.
      Standard, trust me I have gone through similar stuff and I can just say to you, stop doing it. :D You wont make profit from hero-calls unless you have really good reads which most likely you wont have.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      Thanks, I'll try and fix this asap.
    • CallumN
      CallumN
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      Joined: 04.01.2012 Posts: 1,141
      Originally posted by veriz
      I would be towards just Bet/Folding it. :(


      Im going to play around with pokerstove and see if I can justify it.

      My gut instinct is to get it in and feel pretty happy about it.
    • CallumN
      CallumN
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.01.2012 Posts: 1,141
      A quick go in pokerstove

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 47.630% 43.83% 03.80% 675 58.50 { Ad8d }
      Hand 1: 52.370% 48.57% 03.80% 748 58.50 { AA, JJ-TT, 88, AJs-ATs, A8s, JTs, J8s, T8s, AdJc, AhJc, AhJd, AsJc, AsJd, AsJh, AdTc, AhTc, AhTd, AsTc, AsTd, AsTh, Ad8c, Ah8c, Ah8d, As8c, As8d, As8h, KdQc, KhQc, KhQd, KsQc, KsQd, KsQh, JdTc, JhTc, JhTd, JsTc, JsTd, JsTh }

      I have given him half the KQ combos and half the JT combos. Then half of the flop 2p combos and every set possible. I gave him half the flop 2p's as i expect him to cbet them a lot of the time

      This is vs just a pure value range. Im sure he spazzes out with pair+SD's/FD's now and then

      Even with our current equity its basically a get in.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
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      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      And since I just need 41.69% equity to win this hand if he calls, I should be good to go in this situation. Hmmm, interesting.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Haha, I like the pic. :D

      Yeah, true that I didn't go through the equilab calculations. But even for the given calculations it's pretty close. We would need ~41,69% which doesn't exclude rake, so if exclude rake would be ~$44% equity which means break-even spot for us with the ranges what CallumN gave.