[NL2-NL10] Nl10 Fr Kk 02.04

    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
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      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,735
      Pacific Poker - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      MP: $19.18
      MP+1: $2.50
      LP: $10.91
      Hero (CO): $10.00
      BTN: $10.12
      SB: $9.59
      BB: $11.19
      UTG: $10.54
      UTG+1: $10.52

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) A:diamond: 5:heart: K:heart:
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

      Turn: ($1.65, 2 players) 6:heart:
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.35, BB raises to $2.70, Hero calls $1.35

      River: ($7.05, 2 players) T:club:
      BB bets $3.52, fold

      unknown player, just 9 hands.

      for me this hand is very clear and i can see it that this player has got flush.
      I think that ship turn would be wrong so why I don't see it on NL20 like in this example: Nl20 Fr Aa 01.03
  • 8 replies
    • thebaptist333
      thebaptist333
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      I don't think I could fold second best set for a half pot bet against unknown when only a flush and AA beats you.

      I could be wrong but I think you have to just close your eyes and call that river. I think he has enough 2 pairs and set combos to make this call profitable. I also don't think he has QJ since he shouldn't be re-raising the turn with that.

      There are also quite a few pair and draw combos he might play that way that you beat. Something like Ax with A of hearts. Or QJ with 1 heart, although that beats you on the river :f_mad: . Maybe Qx or Jx with a heart (QT, JT, AQ, KJ, KT).
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
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      but i did it and i don't feel shame that i folded :)
    • thebaptist333
      thebaptist333
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      Joined: 13.01.2009 Posts: 185

      Board: A:diamond: K:heart: 5:heart:  6:heart:  T:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      CO     69.17%  69.17%   0.00% { KdKc }
      BB     30.83%  30.83%   0.00% { AA, TT, 66-55, QdQh, QhQs, QhQc, JdJh, JhJs, JhJc, AKs, QJs, 65s, AhQh, KhQh, AhJh, KhJh, AhTh, KhTh, QhTh, JhTh, Ah9h, Kh9h, Qh9h, Jh9h, Th9h, Ah8h, Kh8h, Qh8h, Jh8h, Th8h, 9h8h, Ah7h, Kh7h, Jh7h, Th7h, 9h7h, 8h7h, Th6h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, AKo, A6o-A5o, QJo, JTo, 65o, AdQh, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc, AsQh, AcQh, AdJh, AhJd, AhJs, AhJc, AsJh, AcJh, AhTd, AhTs, AhTc, Ah9d, Ah9s, Ah9c, Ah8d, Ah8s, Ah8c, Ah7d, Ah7s, Ah7c, Ah4d, Ah4s, Ah4c, Ah3d, Ah3s, Ah3c, Ah2d, Ah2s, Ah2c, KdQh, KsQh, KcQh, KdJh, KsJh, KcJh, KdTh, KsTh, KcTh, Kd9h, Ks9h, Kc9h, QhTd, QhTs, QhTc, Jh7d, Jh7s, Jh7c, Th6d, Th6s, Th6c }


      I could be missing something. But if I am, then I guess I've found my biggest leak :f_grin: cause I definitely wouldn't fold, not with those pot odds.

      In fact, if it was me, I would probably be shipping the turn because I would be sick to see another heart on the river. Of course I'm just a donkey that thinks bottom set is the nuts all day, every day, and twice on sunday ;)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello BGawli,

      Difficult to fold it on the river while he could as well even block-bet there as with just A:hX hand. I would most likely still call it down on the river for the given odds vs unknown.

      Best Regards.
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
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      I can't agree with that...
      This is the prove that min raise on the turn and small bet on river means only one... better hands than our...
      Here I have two example where I called because of given odds...

      Pacific Poker - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BB: $4.00
      Hero (UTG): $31.17
      UTG+1: $38.47
      MP: $10.43
      MP+1: $19.09
      LP: $9.90
      CO: $10.00
      BTN: $14.63
      SB: $10.00

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 7:diamond: 7:heart:

      Hero raises to $0.35, UTG+1 calls $0.35, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) 3:club: 7:club: A:diamond:
      Hero bets $0.85, UTG+1 calls $0.85

      Turn: ($2.55, 2 players) 6:club:
      Hero bets $2.45, UTG+1 raises to $6.00, Hero calls $3.55

      River: ($14.55, 2 players) 9:heart:
      Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.60, Hero calls $3.60

      UTG+1 shows A:spade: A:heart: (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
      Hero mucks 7:diamond: 7:heart: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
      UTG+1 wins $20.67


      Pacific Poker - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      Hero (UTG): $11.23
      UTG+1: $25.77
      MP: $10.00
      MP+1: $14.99
      CO: $18.65
      BTN: $13.76
      SB: $11.40
      BB: $11.15

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K:spade: K:club:

      Hero raises to $0.35, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.35, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) J:heart: 5:club: K:heart:
      Hero bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75

      Turn: ($2.35, 2 players) 4:heart:
      Hero bets $2.15, CO raises to $4.30, Hero calls $2.15

      River: ($10.95, 2 players) 8:spade:
      Hero checks, CO bets $3.70, Hero calls $3.70

      CO shows 8:heart: A:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 32%, Flop 26%, Turn 77%)
      Hero mucks K:spade: K:club: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 68%, Flop 74%, Turn 23%)
      CO wins $17.44
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Well, I could also bring you examples where I called for the given odds and I was ahead. :D That's not about that, what do you think he is never having there 55/66?
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
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      probably you are right but so far i think that he is never having sets :)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by BGawli
      probably you are right but so far i think that he is never having sets :)
      How can you say never? It's practically like putting the opponent on only 1 hand.