Rank These Hands

    • verneer
      verneer
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      Please rank these hands in order of which you would like to have starting beginning with the most and ending with the least in these two situations:

      1. Just sat down at a six-max table and are UTG. No reads on the players.

      2. You are on the button with a calling station (plays 35/10 at a 6-max table with low aggression) in the BB and a reg in the SB. Everyone folds to you.

      Here are the hands:

      A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      3:club: 3:heart:
      K:club: J:spade:
      7:heart: 8:heart:
      T:diamond: T:spade:

      Please include your answers in a spoiler.
  • 32 replies
    • antstruk
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      Folding first two hands and raising to 3bb the last 3
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      For second scenario, is the reg in SB or BB? Makes the world of a difference.
    • Borisian
      Borisian
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      Scenario 1

      TT
      KJ
      78 & A4 (most likely fold unless there I'm feeling frisky)
      33 (FOLD!)


      Scenario 2

      TT
      78s & A4s tied
      KJ
      33
    • verneer
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      For second scenario, is the reg in SB or BB? Makes the world of a difference.
      Edited in info.
    • VorpalF2F
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      1. Just sat down at a six-max table and are UTG. No reads on the players.

      T:diamond: T:spade:
      3:club: 3:heart:
      A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      K:club: J:spade:
      7:heart: 8:heart:

      2. You are on the button with a calling station and a reg in the blinds. Everyone folds to you.
      T:diamond: T:spade:
      A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      K:club: J:spade:
      3:club: 3:heart:
      7:heart: 8:heart:

      Like the lady said, "It ain't what you got, it's what you do with it that counts".
      My choices are more a reflection of how I play post flop, and what kind of hands I would call or raise a 3Bet, rather than what I think the hand's actual value is.
    • EmanuelC16
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      1. Just sat down at a six-max table and are UTG. No reads on the players.

      1. T:diamond: T:spade:
      2. 3:club: 3:heart:
      3. K:club: J:spade:
      4. A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      5. 7:heart: 8:heart:


      2. You are on the button with a calling station (plays 35/10 at a 6-max table with low aggression) in the BB and a reg in the SB. Everyone folds to you.

      1. T:diamond: T:spade:
      2. K:club: J:spade:
      3. A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      4. 7:heart: 8:heart:
      5. 3:club: 3:heart:
    • StaticMoth
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      1)

      T:diamond: T:spade:
      3:club: 3:heart:
      A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      K:club: J:spade:
      7:heart: 8:heart:

      2)

      T:diamond: T:spade:
      A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      K:club: J:spade:
      7:heart: 8:heart:
      3:club: 3:heart:
    • nefarious26
      nefarious26
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      Hand 1

      33 tt 78 a4 kj


      Hand 2

      kj tt a4 78 33
    • staktas
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      1. T:diamond: T:spade:
      3 :club: 3 :heart:
      K:club: J:spade:
      7:heart: 8:heart:
      A:diamond: 4:diamond:

      2. K :club: J :spade:
      T:diamond: T:spade:
      A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      7:heart: 8:heart:
      3:club: 3:heart:
    • nonamesleft
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      Scenario 1


      TT
      33
      Ad4d
      7h8h
      KcJs


      Scenario 2


      TT
      Ad4d
      7h8h
      33
      KcJs

    • clawindsouza
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      1.
      a) TT
      b) 7h8h
      c)33
      d)Ad4d
      e)KJo


      2.

      a) TT
      b) KJo
      c) 7h8h
      d) Ad4d
      e) 33
    • stevegold87
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      Mind you i'm not really a cash game player but here are my thoughts :

      S1 :

      TT,,KJo,33, A4s,78s

      I would def. fold A4s and 78s in a new 6 max game I just joined. 33 would b a borderline raise. Same for KJo. TT would be the only hand I would feel confortable to raise UTG on a new table.


      S2 :

      KJo, TT, A4s,78s,33.

      I don't like playing low PP vs calling station because you know that they will call you with almost any 2 pairs. KJ and TT seems strong enough hand to raise a lot and feel confortable with, KJo is first because it will make top pair most often while with TT you might get into tricky spots.A4s against calling station is ok, you might have to play it a bit passive if you dont hit an ace and try to win the pot A high. 78s has a lot of hope for a big pot and could take a lot of money from him...


      Just my 2 cents...
    • stevegold87
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      I am happy to see ppl have similar result I just wish ppl would explain their answer a little :)
    • fruktpuff
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      Why would we sit down and post as UTG? Clearly any thinking player waits for his bb before posting?
    • TheMoment
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      1.

      1)TT
      2)33
      3)KJo
      4)A4s
      5)87s

      2.

      1)TT
      2)KJo
      3)A4s
      4)87s
      5)33
    • PoincaresConjecture
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      1.
      TT
      33
      A4s
      87s
      KJo

      2.
      TT
      KJo
      A4s
      33
      87s
    • BObamaJr
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      TT
      78s
      33
      KJo
      A4s

      People are saying to fold some of these hands?

      Raise them all!
    • eudodo
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      1.
      TT, 33, KJ, A4, 78


      2.
      TT, 78, 33, A4, KJ
    • DailyDollarPro
      DailyDollarPro
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      Joined: 11.07.2011 Posts: 145
      1. Just sat down at a six-max table and are UTG. No reads on the players.

      1) A:diamond: 4:diamond:
      1) 3:club: 3:heart:
      1) K:club: J:spade:
      1) 7:heart: 8:heart:
      1) T:diamond: T:spade:

      I rank these hands all the same. Assuming we are open raising all of these hands (And there is no reason not to do so), we are also folding to any 3bet. We are an unknown raising utg, no one is 3betting us light. If players call in pos, we just check fold flops we miss and continue where our equity is good. Most of the time everyone will give our utg raise credit (unless its NL5 - NL2) and simply fold. We win the the blinds, next hand. For this reason 7:club: 2:spade: is equaly viable in this spot. In some ways it's better because we can show it after everyone folds to establish a little bit of metta for the session! :s_cool:


      2. You are on the button with a calling station (plays 35/10 at a 6-max table with low aggression) in the BB and a reg in the SB. Everyone folds to you.


      1) T:diamond: T:spade: - Raise
      2) K:club: J:spade: - Raise
      2) A:diamond: 4:diamond: - Raise
      3) 7:heart: 8:heart: - Fold
      3) 3:club: 3:heart: - Fold

      For this hand pocket 10's is clearly the best. A likely situation is the fish calls and the reg squeezes, we now have a nice profitable 4bet/call spot with dead money. If the reg does not squeeze we can easily value bet against the fish on low boards and pot control in pos if over cards hit. K:club: J:spade: & A:diamond: 4:diamond: are roughly the same in value in this spot. They both have good blocker value so we can 4bet/fold vs the regs squeeze or make top pair vs the fish. 7:heart: 8:heart: & 3:club: 3:heart: I feel dont play well in this spot as we can't 4 bet profitably if the reg squeezes and they have low equity against the calling station fish's range.
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