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[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL25 Q8s 3bet pot - river bluff vs chbehind

    • duder1n0
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,335
      $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

      Hero (BTN): $25.37
      SB: $32.05
      BB: $30.52
      UTG: $71.02
      MP: $23.58
      CO: $25.00

      Pre Flop: ($0.37) Hero is BTN with 8 :diamond: Q :diamond:
      1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, MP calls $1.50

      Flop: ($4.87) 8 :spade: T :diamond: 2 :diamond: (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $3.00, MP calls $3

      Turn: ($10.87) T :spade: (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero checks

      River: ($10.87) A :spade: (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero ???

      MP (6,3k hands)
      VPIP/PFR/MPraise1st/foldto3bet/4bet 20/15/21/77/6
      foldtoCBetflop3betpot/turn 47(7/15)/36(8/22)
      AFflop/turn/river 3,1/1,9/1,1
      AFqflop/turn/river 31/25/15
      WtSD/W$SD 26/58

      Villain is a weaker reg, who fold a lot to 3bets preflop, which I like to take advantage of (try to restrain myself though, that it wouldnt became very obvious... :D )
      Flop is a clear Cbet for value. I didnt barrel turn with my draw + showdown value.
      By the river: he doesnt have much Ax in his range as he check/called flop, and he doesnt have much Tx in his range after he checked river.
      Is it worth turning my hand into bluff to this scarecard, or would be better to checkbehind and see the showdown. With a bluffbet I can make some better PPs fold (99/JJ, maybe QQ). What do you think?
  • 2 replies
    • KillerFishes
      Joined: 11.07.2010 Posts: 2,313
      You will never make fold better PPs ... like ... NEVER ;)

      so just chb with SD value ... IMHO!

    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343

      I personally think b/c turn would be better option. There are still quite a lot of hands that is bad for you and you should rather protect your hand against draws than check back turn and then call river.

      Only reason to bet river is to make him fold 99 and sometimes JJ.
      He would not call with weaker 8x hands and would also check sometimes Tx, Ax. I would take my free showdown and if I know he would c/c overpairs on low board I can then turn my hand into bluff.

      best regards,