[NL20-NL50] Nl50Sh - Aq

    • nttflox
      nttflox
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      Joined: 25.10.2007 Posts: 673
      Full Tilt Poker
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
      5 players
      Converter

      Stack sizes:
      Hero: $61.15
      CO: $131
      Button: $60.25
      SB: $75.90
      BB: $57.30

      Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with Q A
      Hero raises to $1.75, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

      Flop: 2 Q 6 ($5.75, 3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $4, Button calls, SB folds.

      Turn: T ($13.75, 2 players)
      Hero checks, Button bets $10, Hero calls.

      River: Q ($33.75, 2 players)
      Hero checks, Button bets $23.75, Hero raises all-in $45.4, Button folds.
      Uncalled bets: $21.65 returned to Hero.

      Results:
      Final pot: $81.25
  • 11 replies
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      I'd typically bet the turn and the river. However, if you think he's aggressive or floats a ton, checking the turn is fine, but I wouldn't think that he fires to often on the river, after you c/c the turn.
    • Philipvw
      Philipvw
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      Why is it better to bet the turn? Or do you assume that villain is not a thinking opponent?
    • TribunCaesar
      TribunCaesar
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      Joined: 29.04.2007 Posts: 13,264
      Uusally your get more value from betting yourself. But as Thorsten said, against aggressive opponents a c/c or sometimes c/r is fine.

      TribunCaesar
    • Philipvw
      Philipvw
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      Joined: 28.05.2007 Posts: 578
      Isn't the standard line check behind turn, call/bet river?
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
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      Joined: 21.09.2007 Posts: 7,195
      Originally posted by Philipvw
      Isn't the standard line check behind turn, call/bet river?
      checking behind is really hard oop, believe me, i tried, didnt work.
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
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      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      Originally posted by helemaalnicks
      Originally posted by Philipvw
      Isn't the standard line check behind turn, call/bet river?
      checking behind is really hard oop, believe me, i tried, didnt work.
      :)
    • Philipvw
      Philipvw
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      Haha, sorry, I meant just check. To induce some action from weaker hands, because the board is so dry. If you bet the turn, weaker hands might be afraid that you also will bet the river, and conclude that this is too expensive for their weak hand. If you just bet the river, than that's the only thing they need to call. Or they may think that by checking the turn you were weak, and now you fire a final bluf, so they will look you up.
      On this board you're either way ahead/way behind, not?
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
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      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      I reckon the board on the turn is becoming a bit wet. FD and SD possibilities all of a sudden. That's why I would have bet the turn again.

      As for the river, after you call his massive turn bet, I can't think why he would fire hugely on the river again, unless he had you beat, which he obviously didn't, because he folded to the c/r. He played really badly.
    • Philipvw
      Philipvw
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      I don't think that it's wet on the turn. If you fear villain has a draw it's most likely a Q:spade: x:spade: . There aren't that many combinations with 2 spades that are likely. He could also have KJ or A:spade: J:spade: an called the flop loosely, but villain won't play the flop like this everytime with those hands.

      My conclusion, if you bet (maybe a good idea, but i'm asking here why) it's not because you want to give draws unfavourable odds.
    • Philipvw
      Philipvw
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      Reactions please?
    • TribunCaesar
      TribunCaesar
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      If you bet the turn it´s mostly for value, not for protection, because itßs unlikely, that villains has a draw. But it´s possible, so you can also bring the argumantation of protection into that hand.
      As i said, against agressive opponents i go for a c/c or sometimes a c/r on the turn ( depends on opponent). But a bet is also fine. It depends on your style, the opponent and the history. To mix up your plays this is a spot to not bet the turn.

      Best regards,
      TribunCaesar